In the Apache if the stick is outside the sleeve the scas will go to limits and saturate
In the Apache if the stick is outside the sleeve the scas will go to limits and saturate
Si see
Swell I never paid attention to that
TYour holds wonāt engage either
TIt wonāt handle as it should basically
SI just trim when I notice my hands getting tired pushin on the stick so much
Sand then when I want to hover
SI trim and leave it there
TYeah youāre flying with an unaided technique in a kinda fbw aircraft
Swas this scas system in the apache when it came out?
TYou have to rethink, itās not you doing things itās you telling the aircraft what to do, garbage in garbage out
TYes
Sthis is the first time hearing about it
Swhat stick do you use?
TCm3
Sah ok
Sare you getting the vp force or your lurking
TI was planning to but then the cm3 came out lol
Saww
Sthere are other options that you can get without weight time if thats an issue
TI mostly do helos so ffb isnāt hugely important for the drawbacks
TDead sticks a dead stick
MWait so you always have to be pressing the trimmer to hover out do anything?
Sbut it doesnt give you maximum realism for example in apache the stick centers no?
TNo, you have some āwiggle roomā and you can push past the magnets
TWhat force trim does is just changing the center point and sas reference
TThe cm3 has dampers so it stays in place
Swait so your sayng that in the white square the ffb should be lighter but when you try to go outside it then it should get strong?
TNo
TIt has nothing to do with feedback
Si mean centering force
TI was talking about the real thing
Syeah in the real thing
TThere is no centering force, not in the sense of a spring
Show does it feel?
TItās literally just holding the stick in place
Sso like a friction?
TYes
Swhat about outside the wiggle room?
Swhat happens when you push past the magnets
TSame thing, the friction doesnāt change
Sso your sayng that on the real apache there is just a friction that hold you stick in any spot you leave it?
TWhat happens is that you have to press the trimmer else the stick will return when you let go
Soh
Sso it does center but only while your not holding it if you forget to trim it in the spot you want to leave it
MAhhhh so after you've dicked around with it you press the trimmer again
TThatās one way
TAka bump trim
TMove stick press button
Sit has some kind of sensor to detect if your holding it or not?
TThe other way (the correct way according to the manual) is hold button move stick let go of button
