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TheLurk🌽
In the real helo pressing the trimmer is what let’s you move the stick to begin with
In the real helo pressing the trimmer is what let
’s you move the stick to begin with
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SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:56 AM
because my ffb stick acts exactly as its supposed to even though it should act like a spring stick
, so I think the game knows and lets me trim where I want to
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
In the Apache if the stick is outside the sleeve the scas will go to limits and saturate
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
i see
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
well I never paid attention to that
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
Your holds won
’t engage either
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
It won
’t handle as it should basically
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:57 AM
I just trim when I notice my hands getting tired pushin on the stick so much
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:58 AM
and then when I want to hover
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:58 AM
I trim and leave it there
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 1:58 AM
Yeah you
’re flying with an unaided technique in a kinda fbw aircraft
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 1:59 AM
was this scas system in the apache when it came out
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 1:59 AM
You have to rethink
, it
’s not you doing things it
’s you telling the aircraft what to do
, garbage in garbage out
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:00 AM
Yes
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:00 AM
this is the first time hearing about it
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:01 AM
what stick do you use
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:01 AM
Cm3
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:01 AM
ah ok
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:01 AM
are you getting the vp force or your lurking
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:02 AM
I was planning to but then the cm3 came out lol
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:02 AM
aww
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:02 AM
there are other options that you can get without weight time if thats an issue
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:02 AM
I mostly do helos so ffb isn
’t hugely important for the drawbacks
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:03 AM
Dead sticks a dead stick
T
TheLurk🌽
In the real helo pressing the trimmer is what let’s you move the stick to begin ...
M
Magpie
•
12/15/22, 2:04 AM
Wait so you always have to be pressing the trimmer to hover out do anything
?
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:04 AM
but it doesnt give you maximum realism for example in apache the stick centers no
?
M
Magpie
Wait so you always have to be pressing the trimmer to hover out do anything?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:04 AM
No
, you have some
„wiggle room
“ and you can push past the magnets
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:05 AM
What force trim does is just changing the center point and sas reference
S
SwiftVengeance
but it doesnt give you maximum realism for example in apache the stick centers n...
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:06 AM
The cm3 has dampers so it stays in place
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:06 AM
wait so your sayng that in the white square the ffb should be lighter but when you try to go outside it then it should get strong
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:06 AM
No
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:07 AM
It has nothing to do with feedback
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:07 AM
i mean centering force
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:07 AM
I was talking about the real thing
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:07 AM
yeah in the real thing
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:07 AM
There is no centering force
, not in the sense of a spring
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:08 AM
how does it feel
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:08 AM
It
’s literally just holding the stick in place
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:08 AM
so like a friction
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:08 AM
Yes
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:08 AM
what about outside the wiggle room
?
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:09 AM
what happens when you push past the magnets
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:09 AM
Same thing
, the friction doesn
’t change
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:09 AM
so your sayng that on the real apache there is just a friction that hold you stick in any spot you leave it
?
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:09 AM
What happens is that you have to press the trimmer else the stick will return when you let go
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:10 AM
oh
S
SwiftVengeance
•
12/15/22, 2:10 AM
so it does center but only while your not holding it if you forget to trim it in the spot you want to leave it
M
Magpie
•
12/15/22, 2:10 AM
Ahhhh so after you
've dicked around with it you press the trimmer again
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:10 AM
That
’s one way
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:11 AM
Aka bump trim
T
TheLurk🌽
OP
•
12/15/22, 2:11 AM
Move stick press button
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