but it doesnt give you maximum realism for example in apache the stick centers no?
but it doesnt give you maximum realism for example in apache the stick centers no?
TNo, you have some „wiggle room“ and you can push past the magnets
TWhat force trim does is just changing the center point and sas reference
TThe cm3 has dampers so it stays in place
Swait so your sayng that in the white square the ffb should be lighter but when you try to go outside it then it should get strong?
TNo
TIt has nothing to do with feedback
Si mean centering force
TI was talking about the real thing
Syeah in the real thing
TThere is no centering force, not in the sense of a spring
Show does it feel?
TIt’s literally just holding the stick in place
Sso like a friction?
TYes
Swhat about outside the wiggle room?
Swhat happens when you push past the magnets
TSame thing, the friction doesn’t change
Sso your sayng that on the real apache there is just a friction that hold you stick in any spot you leave it?
TWhat happens is that you have to press the trimmer else the stick will return when you let go
Soh
Sso it does center but only while your not holding it if you forget to trim it in the spot you want to leave it
MAhhhh so after you've dicked around with it you press the trimmer again
TThat’s one way
TAka bump trim
TMove stick press button
Sit has some kind of sensor to detect if your holding it or not?
TThe other way (the correct way according to the manual) is hold button move stick let go of button
Salright I see
Sdoes it move back to center quickly or slowly
TIn the Apache holding the trimmer switch recenters the scas to your stick position
TAround 3 seconds for recentering
TIt’s all in the manual guys 
THolding the switch also disengages the holds and switches to rate damping but that’s a whole other rabbit hole
Sthe default ffb in apache is really bad
Swhen you hold trim the stick becomes limp
Sand causes my hand to jump because its going from high spring force to nothing
S
Sthere is this nice third party ffb program that works over dcs and allows me to tune the spring, damper, and friction while trimming and normal flying.
Sso I can set it to only friction and it will act like your cm3 in theory lol
原hmmm, isn't it that like many "bigger" helo, apache's cyclic has centering force when force trim release button is not depressed? by magnet or spring. iirc when the force trim release button is depressed, the magnet will be disengaged and gone with the centering force; once the button is released/un-depressed, the new centering position is set to the current position and the centering force is back, no?
原https://youtu.be/QHpYIi_QhHU?t=788 like this
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Prototyping 101 of the 3d printed Helicopter cyclic and trying to match the real thing!
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Swow thats perfect for heli
原with springless & dampered bases like T-50CM3, the problem is the centering force part is missing. It's an compromised way, unless if it's for simulating something like a R22.
Dedicated Heli Cyclic like this one can do it but FFB base can do better since it can be reprogrammed to simulate lots of other types of aircraft.
Dedicated Heli Cyclic like this one can do it but FFB base can do better since it can be reprogrammed to simulate lots of other types of aircraft.
原I think it's the way it should be..maybe try different parameters? weaker spring force for example? have no idea how strong the spring force is in helo tho
might not be as strong as fixed-wings
might not be as strong as fixed-wingsSGood idea
SI have my spring force to 100 lol
SAnd when I press trim my whole table jumps
SBecause my hand slams in the direction I was pulling or pushing
原YouTubecygan25
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Eagle dynamic potwierdził że jedenym z modułów będzie
Mi-24 HIND.
To krótkie proste wideo pokazuje, jak działa trymer w kokpicie
Mi-24.
Istnieją dwa sposoby tradycyjnego trymowania - CHINA HAT - przycisk 4 kierunkowy i przycisk elektromagnesu .
Jest także pozane działanie dzwigni skok- moc. Sprzęgło hydrauliczne uruchamia się za pomocą p...
Eagle dynamic potwierdził że jedenym z modułów będzie
Mi-24 HIND.
To krótkie proste wideo pokazuje, jak działa trymer w kokpicie
Mi-24.
Istnieją dwa sposoby tradycyjnego trymowania - CHINA HAT - przycisk 4 kierunkowy i przycisk elektromagnesu .
Jest także pozane działanie dzwigni skok- moc. Sprzęgło hydrauliczne uruchamia się za pomocą p...
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In this tutorial we explain how the trim works in EC 135 V5 compared to the real helicopter. This includes the Force Trim Release Function (FTR) and the BEEP Trim. Official tutorial approved by rotorsim. Visit https://www.rotorsim.de
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