Ummmmm what?

mechsicko•12/17/22, 9:22 PM

Did I mistake you as a glider pilot? I thought you were referencing you know what the stick feels like at the top of a loop in one. I was talking about glider types and characteristics on that premise..

Mmechsicko Did I mistake you as a glider pilot? I thought you were referencing you know wha...

scriptedprOP•12/17/22, 9:23 PM

Yea you did but I’m actually really interested in gliders though which is funny. I know nothing about them though

Sscriptedpr Yea you did but I’m actually really interested in gliders though which is funny....

mechsicko•12/17/22, 9:28 PM

I can see how my message would be gibberish then :p

SZD-59 Acro is a Polish sailplane which is an aerobatic capable variant of another standard class (15m wing, no flaps) sailplane made for cross-country (xc) soaring called the SZD-48. Shares the same fuse/cockpit/wings but a different tail and has enlarged ailerons and the wingtips removable so can be flown as 15m (standard class) with good efficiency (40:1 glide ratio, +5.5/-3.5g's, 155kt VNE, looping and limited acro ok) or 13m for full acro flying (28:1 glide ratio +7/-5 g's, 177kt VNE, full acro aside from tailslide maneuvers because it will break the giant rudder) https://szdallstar.com/en/products/szd-59-1-acro/

SZD

SZD-59-1 ACRO

ACRO – The versatile three-in-one single-seater-glider – 3 wing spans for gliding: • aerobatics • cross-country • competition. Find out more »»»

mechsicko•12/17/22, 9:30 PM

Apparently there are also 16.5m tips for it as well, stretching its glide ratio higher than 40:1

scriptedprOP•12/17/22, 9:30 PM

Yea I would love to go up in one. Maybe even get one. It seems so peaceful from the videos I’ve watched

mechsicko•12/17/22, 9:32 PM

Gliding/soaring rules and useful skills to have for all pilots since they're all gliders when the motor dies but yes super fun and can be very peaceful as well, though it's not without its own set of worries :p

Wwalmis Hey guys, I will be out of action for a couple of days, got a nasty case of flu ...

Right Rudder - Left Stick•12/17/22, 9:35 PM

Feel better, my wife was out for over 2 weeks with it. Influenza is back with a vengence.

Wwalmis Doing a quick design for the MonsterTech plate for the Rhino. Looking for feedba...

blave549•12/17/22, 10:09 PM

I'm late to this discussion. Is this something that MT would make, or are you going to do it? It needs to be 4mm thick in my opinion... I just measured the MT-manufactured plate for my Virpil CM3 base and it appears to be 5mm. Even better.

Bblave549 https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/986474224241741884/9872680822192...

Kreytfire•12/17/22, 11:14 PM

thanks mate

Mmechsicko Whoa, another sailplane acro pilot? My other car is a SZD-59 😉 I've looped in...

aclen.•12/17/22, 11:31 PM

Puchacz, Jantar Std 2, ASK21, Blanik, DG300 and DG505 are the planes I flew. Learnt all of my flying on Polish gliders and if anyone has Sebastian Kawa in their friendship circle - please let me know if he ever does any training/mentoring/etc.

JJon (Bounty_V)for example why isn't there a ffb yoke from thrustmaster or logitech

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原子力Hoshino•12/18/22, 3:35 AM

these two are even reluctant to build quality "traditional" flight sim gears lol they are more than happy to just make their same old garbage plastic toys for another couple of decades while still can rob moneys out of noobs easily...
Sadly flight sim is even more nichey than racing sim...and lots of ppl have experienced driving themselves so garbage zerging tactic doesn't work that well. But for flight sim, most ppl can't even tell wht is wrong with those toys bcz they have never flown themselves...
And since nobody cares, dev of the platform doesn't care about implementing (advanced) FFB support much, either...or it's a egg and chicken problem...but anyway we end up with this death spiral of FFB in flight sim lol

SwiftVengeance•12/18/22, 6:09 AM

And thats why we need to make our own flight sim gear

Naabin•12/18/22, 9:01 PM

Is there a storefront to buy the Rhino?

NNaabin Is there a storefront to buy the Rhino?

Rumpel•12/18/22, 9:16 PM

Hey Naabin, welcome. Check out the #

faq for ordering and other info.

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 1:06 AM

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 1:06 AM

Taking this apart for thr motor

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 1:06 AM

Im gona use it for a diy racing wheel or joystick hehe

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 1:16 AM

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SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 1:16 AM

Big boi

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 4:36 AM

SwiftVengeance•12/19/22, 4:38 AM

3.9 ft/lb torque

superbird1011•12/19/22, 6:40 PM

So the time has finally come to sort out my flight sim gear

superbird1011•12/19/22, 6:40 PM

I'm ordering the Virpil throttle, Virpil WarBRD base and T50 stick

superbird1011•12/19/22, 6:41 PM

This stick will work on a VP rhino? The reason i'm going for the cheaper base is as i intend to also order the Rhino.

superbird1011•12/19/22, 6:49 PM

@walmis I dm'd to reserve a base

scriptedprOP•12/19/22, 7:03 PM

According to the faq the t50 cm2 is supported @adam1220.

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Haums•12/19/22, 7:15 PM

are you able to control these motors precisely enough for a FFB setup?

Sscriptedpr According to the faq the t50 cm2 is supported @adam1220.

superbird1011•12/19/22, 7:22 PM

Brilliant. Then i can use my WarBRD until it arrives then my partner can have it

amadeus•12/19/22, 7:52 PM

!status

Aamadeus !status

VPforceBot•12/19/22, 7:52 PM

Hey @amadeus,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0030 on 2022-12-08
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 85 days, median is 109 days, max is 156 days
28 Rhinos are shipped in total

Frenchy•12/20/22, 6:58 PM

Mole at Black Shark Den built a helo cyclic with electro magnets, but it's not the same idea

Frenchy•12/20/22, 7:03 PM

He uses electro magnets to hold the stick in place like force trim, and then dampers to move the stick around that position.
If you want to trim to a new center you press force trim release, the magnets switch off, you move the stick, then the magnets switch back on to lock in the new center

Frenchy•12/20/22, 7:03 PM

Not sure if that's what you meant

Anthony•12/20/22, 7:11 PM

Sounds like it would wreak havoc with HALL sensors?

Flight_Dojo•12/20/22, 11:43 PM

is xpforce the only working plugin for msfs2020?

FFlight_Dojo is xpforce the only working plugin for msfs2020?

PiNKSH!T•12/21/22, 3:36 AM

FSPlayground also has FFB for msfs2020, I haven't used this myself only used the 10min free trial for XPForce & it seemed ok, stick moved in the wrong direction in game when I used my trim wheel, but the Rhino moved in the right direction & the inputs to game were correct, so basically just graphical. Walmis has also said in the next Rhino software update he'll have fixes for some of the inverted axis bugs that happen with XPForce & also will be adding hardware force trim & a feedback loop system so you can bind the force trim to stick grips other than what's directly connected to the Rhino base ie. I have a vkb grip that uses the passthrough adapter to the vkb blackbox, with the feedback loop I'll be able to bind my grip buttons to force trim.

Leddhedd•12/21/22, 2:26 PM

Decided to cave and buy a nice granite surface plate so i can stop second guessing my printer

Leddhedd•12/21/22, 2:26 PM

antigravitačnik•12/21/22, 11:42 PM

iirc the VNM Wheel was a Firmware for the DIY FFB simracing wheels, maybe it would make sense to take a look at the VNM Discord channel, I think I saw arduino FFB support mentioned there. It is a starting point at least

antigravitačnik•12/21/22, 11:43 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY_P20CNJUQ

YouTubePeacemaker Motion

VNM Wheelbase Force Feedback Firmware Review - The future of DIY FFB??

7x4 = 28... how did I ever pass math?! lol

How's it going everyone.. this one has been a long time coming. Busy times of late but finally got it done and hopefully we can get this firmware out there in the public some more and get more people on board testing and helping improve what is already an amazing bit of software!

Did it sound like i ...

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walmis•12/22/22, 6:57 AM

Try the Fino project on GitHub. It's a simple arduino firmware with FFB!

keem85•12/22/22, 3:43 PM

People here with cm3 and a 20cm extender. Can you "angle" your grip a bit to the left to make a more comfortable angle?

keem85•12/22/22, 3:43 PM

I have a tm grip at home, looking at buying virpil base

TonyZ2525•12/22/22, 4:42 PM

@keem85 yes you can angle it.

Kkeem85 People here with cm3 and a 20cm extender. Can you "angle" your grip a bit to the...

Knight59•12/22/22, 5:00 PM

yes

superbird1011•12/22/22, 6:51 PM

!status

Ssuperbird1011 !status

superbird1011•12/22/22, 6:51 PM

Wait is the bot not working?

Deleted User•12/22/22, 9:53 PM

a realsimulator grip adapter would be a nice next step since they have high quality grips

TTonyZ2525 @keem85 yes you can angle it.

keem85•12/22/22, 11:49 PM

Pardon my ignorance, but how do you angle this when the socket is firm? It looks to me that my TM grip will be pointing striaght forward..
If it were a lose cable from top to bottom it would be possible to angle the extender by just tightening it a bit to the left, but in this picture it seems to be baked in

TonyZ2525•12/23/22, 12:36 AM

@keem85 It does work with that Virpil extension but you will have to remove the 2 screws holding the din plug in and possibly use the extension cable to rotate the grip . I assumed you were using a straight Virpil extension which I am using and my grip is rotated at least 30 deg to the left. Sorry dude.

Ummmmm what?

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