Uwoo!
DOooh
PNice premium look to that as well
DTho, I might mount mine differently
Wthat's a pretty neat mounting! 
WI think I can optimize the weight a bit with center cutouts
HDoes anyone have experience with using the base with condor 2?
VWhat dont you like about it that you would change? Seems pretty ideal unless you wanted to use a shorter extension because the long extension reduces the forces too much?
ROh I like that. I’ve got an extruded aluminum frame and this will work a treat.
MYes, the Rhino works out of the box with Condor 2. You get stick movement with trim, stall buffet and possibly some stick force modulation with speed. But that's it. No speed-brake shake or ground roll/impact rumbles. It's not flashy, but it works.
FThat looks fantastic!
Fwill those effects be added at some point?
MThat would be a question for the Condor developers. The Rhino presumably simply takes the force feedback signals from Condor and implements them. I think Walmis was talking about potentially developing some dynamic effects modelling that would read in things like airspeed, g-force etc. that would provide effects to games that didn't have FFB outputs, but that's probably pretty low on the priority list.
FI meant for DCS, I know the Brunner solution seems to have some of those "immersion" effects. My apologies, that was a better question for Walmis.
MAh, right. DCS has all of those, but it's dependent on the module developers which they put in. Am sure there's a thread somewhere in this discord that summarizes which effects are in which modules. The F-14, notably, is really rather lovely and they seem to have put everything in that.
FUnderstood
DBeefier thsn most throttle plates, what a beast!
BSo if a DCS module hasn't got any FFB coded does the stick just behave like a normal spring style joystick?
WYes plus the additional features you can adjust - spring, damper, hw trim etc
Aoh shii, do you know when this should be released?
Ahoping to get an order in for that prior to actually getting the rhino xD
DGetting into the pit, there is no floor and depending on the height of the extension, it may need to be lower
PI have been bugging ED for years about lack of consistency in FFB implementation, some mods have had better FFB implementation than the official content, and that to me is just sad, as the problem was only understood and felt by a small minority of players I guess they just haven't ever got around to fixing things properly.
GThere also hasn’t been a market for actual ffb sticks …. So a lot of developers probly barely think about it
MYeah we almost need to have a couple of developer rhinos so they can use them and post them around. I bet, apart from heatblur, they've never even used a ffb stick.
MAre you sure about that? Condor 1 is as old as MSFF II and I've been playing it since then, jumping back and forth to real gliders. I haven't played C2 in a long time cause their VR support sucks and instead of fixing it they're working on C3 for years. I remember the effects being pretty good though, definitely loads up with airspeed, airbrake rumble and ground fx for the wheel and even the controls getting moved around in winds on the runway when not in motion.. am I misrembering here?
LHow many people are currently on the waitlist and how long would it roughly take to get one to germany if I would order now?
L!status
VHey @leninjahd,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0033 on 2023-01-04
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 88 days, median is 109 days, max is 177 days
29 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0033 on 2023-01-04
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 88 days, median is 109 days, max is 177 days
29 Rhinos are shipped in total
MUse the VPforce bot so send a private message with the command !info hereyourmailadres it shows your waiting place
WThe wait list is quite long > 200 atm
WWorking hard to fix that 
LIs there also a wait list for the Motor Kits?
WNo, those are in stock
SHow do we know where we are in the list?
SWait
WDM @VPforceBot private message with the command
!info here@yourmail.addressIm an idiot
SI just saw it lol
S231 before mine!
SThat sounds like an awful lot @walmis
SDo you have plans to increase production etc?
Wyeah, working on it
SHow did you find a 80/20 flight sim rig that didnt break the bank? All i can find are racing ones.
SWhat is it that you need? Just finding out how or the cost of it too?
W@Rhino Owner @FFB/Kit Owner
Firmware hotfix released:
http://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/
Firmware hotfix released:
v1.0.13-4http://vpforcecontrols.com/usb/rhino/
Phi, @walmis , is this related to the "Effect 7" crash in DCS due to unacknowledged USB packet in AMD usb controllers?
PI have a X570 A4 board and DCS does indeed crash when that effect kicks in (damaged bird, shaking). Maybe I'll try a dedicated pci USB board, someone posted here it helps.
WThis is a fix for the fix but yeah, since 1.0.13-3 I did workaround the issue with AMD boards.
but yeah, since 1.0.13-3 I did workaround the issue with AMD boards.