I am saying I would like to be able to actually edit and modify my image data on the CPU side, my bi

I am saying I would like to be able to actually edit and modify my image data on the CPU side, my big thing is authoring and having compression and decompression codepaths.

Kai•1/8/23, 1:57 PM

The only advantage straight RGBA memory has is writing

KKai The only advantage straight RGBA memory has is writing

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 1:57 PM

to which that is my main reason for wanting to stay in RGBA

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 1:58 PM

I also don't want to deal with decompressing various different compression formats to get the RGBA textures out

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 1:59 PM

nor a compression library to compress them initially

TechPizza•1/8/23, 1:59 PM

why would you want to edit any texture at any time though

RRedhacker2 I am saying I would like to be able to actually edit and modify my image data on...

Kai•1/8/23, 1:59 PM

I mean sure, if you need to edit it, I get it.

Furball•1/8/23, 1:59 PM

just edit the texture ahead of time

TTechPizza why would you want to edit any texture at any time though

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 1:59 PM

I want to paint

Furball•1/8/23, 2:00 PM

what

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:00 PM

no but seriously

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:01 PM

I do want to be able to make changes to textures at runtime, mainly for runtime level editing and texture design.

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:01 PM

I would like to keep everything in game or at least in engine if possible

TechPizza•1/8/23, 2:01 PM

gpu-compressed textures are usually trivial to decompress, but you do you

TTechPizza gpu-compressed textures are usually trivial to decompress, but you do you

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:02 PM

I looked into it, and they swirrled me into a headache pretty much instantly

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:02 PM

or at least the DXT line did

TechPizza•1/8/23, 2:03 PM

they would not be useful on the gpu if they were algorithmically difficult to decompress

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:03 PM

not to mention they each seem recommended for different common usecases, meaning I would probably want I think it was to support the main 3. Which pretty much made me threw my fist up.

TTechPizza they would not be useful on the gpu if they were algorithmically difficult to de...

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:03 PM

I never said anything about being algorithmically difficult

RRedhacker2 I looked into it, and they swirrled me into a headache pretty much instantly

TechPizza•1/8/23, 2:04 PM

really now

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:04 PM

yes

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:04 PM

and I stand by what I said

Kai•1/8/23, 2:08 PM

So I'd highly recommend pushing readonly textures to GPU in BC/S3TC (same thing, two names) simply because memory is so slow and processors, especially GPU, are so fast.

Kai•1/8/23, 2:08 PM

The more modern the GPU is the larger the gap between CPU and memory speed. Not even mentioning mobile.

Kai•1/8/23, 2:09 PM

That's why pretty much all modern graphics apps use something like those, or even ASTC, to push readonly data to GPU

Kai•1/8/23, 2:09 PM

And in 99% of cases textures are readonly

Kai•1/8/23, 2:09 PM

So...

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:14 PM

not gonna disagree

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:14 PM

you are 100% right

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:40 PM

System.PlatformNotSupportedException: Couldn't find a suitable window platform. (GlfwPlatform - not applicable) https://dotnet.github.io/Silk.NET/docs/hlu/troubleshooting.html

System.PlatformNotSupportedException: Couldn't find a suitable window platform. (GlfwPlatform - not applicable) https://dotnet.github.io/Silk.NET/docs/hlu/troubleshooting.html

Getting this on Linux running under Wayland, do i have to install anything else?

MMarioGK ```System.PlatformNotSupportedException: Couldn't find a suitable window platfor...

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:46 PM

do you have GLFW installed?

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:46 PM

Installed the glfw-wayland package in Arch, and it fixed, but shouldnt silk.net include the libraries automatically?

RRedhacker2 do you have GLFW installed?

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:46 PM

Didnt have, i thought it came with the nuget package

MMarioGK Installed the glfw-wayland package in Arch, and it fixed, but shouldnt silk.net ...

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:46 PM

why? those are distro specific

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:47 PM

and linux people like using their distros libraries

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:47 PM

I thought it was a standard library

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:48 PM

why would GLFW be a standard library?

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:49 PM

Well by standard i meant as it should work on any linux distro, well i am new to linux so there are things that i dont know about libs/deps in linux space yet, in windows you could get a .dll for win8 and it should work on win11

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:50 PM

And there is a package called Ultz.Native.GLFW i thought it included all the libraries needed to run silk.net with glfw

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:50 PM

never assume anything is standard in an open source forked to hell and back project, that will get you screwed over real quick

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:50 PM

been there lol

RRedhacker2 never assume anything is standard in an open source forked to hell and back proj...

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:51 PM

Thanks for the tip

MarioGK•1/8/23, 2:51 PM

Well anyway i can package glfw with my app? making it the famous single bin publish?

Redhacker2OP•1/8/23, 2:53 PM

idk

Hanprogramer•1/8/23, 3:05 PM

in my windows build it auto include the native libs

Hanprogramer•1/8/23, 3:05 PM

including linux

Hanprogramer•1/8/23, 3:05 PM

is it distro specific as well?

Hanprogramer•1/8/23, 3:05 PM

libglfw.so.3

Hanprogramer•1/8/23, 3:06 PM

runtimes/linux-x64/native

MMarioGK ```System.PlatformNotSupportedException: Couldn't find a suitable window platfor...

Aqua•1/8/23, 3:11 PM

are you using Silk.NET.WindowingSilk.NET.Windowing or Silk.NET.Windowing.CommonSilk.NET.Windowing.Common?

MarioGK•1/8/23, 3:12 PM

@grifon.petre Silk.NET.Windowing

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