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TechPizza
so one should look at the install size, not APK size
so one should look at the install size
, not APK size
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TechPizza
so one should look at the install size, not APK size
I
Igorko
•
1/13/23, 7:07 PM
hmm
, didn
't think of that
I
Igorko
•
1/13/23, 7:07 PM
the app size is 35
.42 MB
I
Igorko
•
1/13/23, 7:07 PM
chonky indeed
F
flyke
•
1/13/23, 7:14 PM
People making games on Defold engine
, with 4mb download size
. Is it possible with
.Net and Silk
? I mean
, such small apk size
.
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:15 PM
it is technically possible but you
'd throw out everything that
's nice about this ecosystem in the process
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:15 PM
mono is to blame for a lot of the size
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:15 PM
as the actual silk bit
(SDL
, silk assemblies
) is pretty tiny by comparison
F
flyke
•
1/13/23, 7:18 PM
I see
, so all volume it is big fat Mono
.
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:18 PM
pretty much
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:18 PM
i
'd be interested in the actual apk makeup though
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:18 PM
which assemblies are the largest
L
Lyris the Kitori
and you can still compile apps for that in vs2022, even for ARM
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:31 PM
it doesnt work though
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
itll tell you that its an invalid target
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
and that the valid targets are x86
, x86
_64 and arm64
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
I saw the option and just assumed it worked
, ah
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
oh i meant a totally different thing but yes
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
just cuz its there doesnt mean it works
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:32 PM
hell it lets you select itanium as the target
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:33 PM
it just wont build cuz msvc dropped that long ago
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:33 PM
also that subsystem is horrible
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:33 PM
its the definition of malicious compliance
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:36 PM
the unix subsystem was only made to milk money from government stuff cuz they needed to comply with a unix spec to be considered
F
Furball
•
1/13/23, 7:36 PM
and well
.
.
. that spec wasnt exactly well written
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:37 PM
government specs are never well written
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 7:37 PM
heck all non
-open specs tend to be poortly written
F
flyke
•
1/13/23, 8:09 PM
I
'm happy with new Linux subsystem on Windows
, web devs life became easier
. Can run aps in Linux containers
, almost without problems
, only drawback is high memory consumption
.
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:10 PM
the POSIX subsystem for windows wasn
't like WSL or WSL2
, it
's an NT personality
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:11 PM
as the NT kernel can expose multiple different
"personalities
"
, one being the Windows subsystem for Windows
(also known as the Win32 API
)
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
although WSL2 is basically just a VM at this point
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
yeah
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
og WSL was the shit
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
it
's a misnomer
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
kernel level beauty
P
Perksey
og WSL was the shit
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
tru
T
TechPizza
OP
•
1/13/23, 8:12 PM
i hate IO in WSL2
:
(
F
flyke
•
1/13/23, 8:13 PM
I thought they made WSL on top of that Posix which is compatible with Unix
.
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:13 PM
no
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:13 PM
WSL2 is kinda just a VM
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:13 PM
og WSL wielded a lot of happy accidents created by NT being designed to be posix compliant
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:14 PM
like case sensitivity
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:14 PM
tbh if microsoft wanted they could make windows the ultimate software platform with a MacOS subsystem for Windows
, i
'm surprised they havent
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:15 PM
with the development power of microsoft they totally could
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:15 PM
well
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:15 PM
that would be very illegal
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:15 PM
copying an API isn
't illegal
, right
? how does wine exist
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:16 PM
or any non oracle JVM
T
TechPizza
OP
•
1/13/23, 8:16 PM
oracle would copyright the alphabet if they could
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:17 PM
i don
't mean a mac vm like WSL2
, i mean an NT personality to mimic the MacOS API
P
Perksey
•
1/13/23, 8:17 PM
they could make a Darwin subsystem
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/13/23, 8:17 PM
that
's what i meant
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