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~~or do what i do which is to implement them in imgui~~
or do what i do which is to implement them in imgui
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Aqua
~~or do what i do which is to implement them in imgui~~
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:17 PM
Accessibility requirements
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:18 PM
I guess I have to push my engine without audio for now
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:18 PM
seems daunting to add audio support and I don
't want to duck tape some old library
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:18 PM
It
's probably more worth it to them for them to use the inbuilt ones for accessibility reasons which would be significantly easier and more consistent and reliable for them
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:20 PM
I
hate
apps that don
't use platform
-native dialogs
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:20 PM
GIMP is really annoying for me on Windows since it uses the GTK file picker instead of the Win32 one
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:20 PM
I hate ones that use the windows dialog
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:20 PM
Especially that folder browser one
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
the really old one
?
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
thats just a square window
?
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
Yes
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
oh man I feel you
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
That you just can
't paste a path into
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
The Windows one is really elegant for me since I can always
type in
the file name I want to open and it auto
-completes
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
instead of needing to read through the list of existing files
(which the gtk one makes you do in some cases
)
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:21 PM
I feel like that thing existed way back in the DOS era of windows
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:23 PM
I also don
't like non
-native looking dialogs
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:23 PM
Me neither
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:23 PM
I like apps being consistent with the OS
's theme
N
Nitrous
I also don't like non-native looking dialogs
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:23 PM
But anything is better than that dialogue
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:23 PM
true
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
thats why I had Windows App SDK support on my engine
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
And I don
't like writing my own dialog systems
(especially file pickers
)
, that
's a lot of needless work when your OS has an API for that
.
R
ritchie ❤
I like apps being consistent with the OS's theme
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
I actually hate the modern windows win32 theming
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
as for Linux
, I had my friend make bindings for
nativefiledialogs-extended
nativefiledialogs-extended
https://github.com/Speykious/NativeFileDialogs.NET
GitHub
GitHub - Speykious/NativeFileDialogs.NET: Full .NET wrapper for Nat...
Full
.NET wrapper for NativeFileDialogs
(Extended
)
.
- GitHub
- Speykious
/NativeFileDialogs
.NET
: Full
.NET wrapper for NativeFileDialogs
(Extended
)
.
R
Redhacker2
I actually hate the modern windows win32 theming
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
Oh I do too
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:24 PM
They removed context menu item highlights in Windows 11
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
Or if it
's still there
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
it
's so faint
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
it may as well NOT be there
R
ritchie ❤
They removed context menu item highlights in Windows 11
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
They keep brighting up the color scheme
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
To the point where it just toasts your eyes
R
Redhacker2
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
At this point I
'd rather design an app with my own design
, language and style
. Then I would try and use Windows built
-in stuff
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
That
's not even the issue for me because I can just invert it
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:25 PM
a lot of Windows 11 UI feels like they
're using XAML Islands to wrap over the old stuff
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:26 PM
The issue is I can barely see the
white mouse cursor
against the
white context menu
and there
's no item highlight
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:26 PM
I managed to open a Windows Explorer window without the ribbon
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:26 PM
so I can
't be reasonably sure I
'm hovering over the thing I wanna click
N
Nitrous
a lot of Windows 11 UI feels like they're using XAML Islands to wrap over the ol...
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:27 PM
If you futz with certain system files and the registry
, it
's possible to devolve the Windows 11 taskbar back to being a
(broken
) Windows 10 one
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:27 PM
You may actually be right
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:28 PM
probably the reason why they
're pushing Windows App SDK so much
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:28 PM
it used to be called Project Reunion
R
ritchie ❤
What would be really nice is if .NET had a standard API for showing message boxe...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/16/23, 10:28 PM
well thats what MAUI is supposed to be for but it doesnt support linux
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:28 PM
to unify Win32
, UWP
, WPF together
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/16/23, 10:29 PM
MAUI is generally what they want to push for UI stuff
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:29 PM
Thing is I would prefer not to use a full UI framework if at all possible
R
ritchie ❤
•
1/16/23, 10:29 PM
because that just adds a lot of bloat if all I
'm using it for is system dialog abstractions
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
1/16/23, 10:29 PM
best bet is to then call into something like GTK or QT that is cross platform
N
Nitrous
as for Linux, I had my friend make bindings for `nativefiledialogs-extended` htt...
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:30 PM
@acidiclight btw
N
Nitrous
•
1/16/23, 10:30 PM
I forgot which GUI libraries this interfaces for Linux but it works okay for Windows and MacOS
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