Psry m8, trying now, I got rudely called away from PC 
Pdcs crashed on start up
Pmust not of liked me typing in discord
Ptried again & got to dcs main screen, I'll let you know how the f18 goes
JHey guys, is there a way to get the Force Trim working with an VKB Stick on the VKB adaptor? I'm unable to bind the Hat Keys. Might be that I misunderstood the Loopback thingy in Grip type.
WYou need to launch the loopback application that's in the VPforce directory
JOhhh.... You should issue a warning that old men are over the head in trouble configuring this beast
JThank you
Psorry Walmis I got pulled away before I could really check it again, I did get it to work so I got effects with the SU 25t, but what effects should I get with the f-18?
Wweapon launch, gun fire, CMs, rolling on the runway, AoA buffet
Pok I'm going to give it a go again soon, let you know
WThe telemetry window should be a good indication if it works
Pok, I'm not getting any effects in the f18 & I'm guessing only dcs's ffb effects for the SU25t, just flew both then & nothing comes up in the Telemetry Window
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Pthose are the two windows that open
PAlso I'm running all this before I start DCS
WCould you post the file
c:/users/<you>/Saved Games/DCS/Scripts/export.lua
SI have an issue that may be a DCS fault or maybe how DCS is talking to the VP.
SWhen the stick is moved to a position where the aircraft is flying straight and level annd the controls indicator shows the stick centered, it is REALLY NOT centered. For example here is the A10C_2
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SWhen flying straight and level, the stick is halfway forward but DCS thinks its centered.
SThis makes maneuvering challenging because I dont have room to push the stick as forward as I need to for DCS to recognize a full forward excursion.
SHere is an even more extreme case. The F5
WThat's how it's implemented in DCS
SAgain, look at the VSI and you'll see Im flying pretty straight and level.
WYou can open Debug tab and see the CP (Center Point) value for spring
SHowever both VP and Windows see the stick almost fully forward (which it is) But DCS thinks its centered. In this case I have almost no ability to make the aircraft dive .
Sok, I am still paused in DCS in an F5 flying straight and level. Here is a pic of the debug tab
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Swhat am i looking at?
WYou can see virtual center is set by DCS to be -2607 on Y axis
Sso CP is -2607
Syes I see it
Sbut my stick is properly calibrated
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WYes, it's working properly.
MI use the F5 a lot and yes the stick is trimmed quite far forward in level flight apart from decending for level changes the correct procedure is roll and pull, once in the circuit and your in trim for final and on AOA the stick is quite far back
Sso how do i tell DCS the center point should be zero?
WWell, that's how it is. I think you can change the trim behaviour in SPECIAL options section for the F-5
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WDisplaced neutral gives this behaviour
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SI guess I have to experiment
S@mike_aka_mugs what's your setting in this special menu?
Mwill check
Sin linear
Syou can see I can achieve hands off trimmed flight with 5 degrees pitch up and slight back pressure on the stick
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Snonlinear feels the same as linear.
SFrom what I've read, the stick should provide more back pressure around the center point as this increased resistance allows better fine grained control (the F15 is this way). However the F18 has a linear 40lb pull regardless of stick excursion.