Ah ok! Like go to in effects and untick all the boxes? And also, the force effect 2nd box underneath

Ah ok! Like go to in effects and untick all the boxes? And also, the force effect 2nd box underneath, that's just for vpforce to override any game input, right? Thank you very much for the help and suggestions by the way!

SStoned Kakapo Ah ok! Like go to in effects and untick all the boxes? And also, the force effec...

leninjahd•2/25/23, 11:52 PM

Also check that you enabled Force Feedback in DCS

Lleninjahd Also check that you enabled Force Feedback in DCS

Stoned KakapoOP•2/26/23, 12:22 AM

Yep, made sure it was on at first and then off, for the huey and f5 anyway. I'm about to try it with all the effects off

Lleninjahd Also check that you enabled Force Feedback in DCS

Stoned KakapoOP•2/26/23, 1:01 AM

Wow I'm dumb, I didn't even know there was a ffb option in the option menu, I thought it was only through the special tab for individual modules. My old ffb stick, I used an app that would override dcs, figures. Thank you for making me double check my options

Stoned KakapoOP•2/26/23, 1:01 AM

Everything works as it should now!!

Ggitbse @smitty#5756 hey, I was looking at those gear reduction planetaries you listed. ...

smitty•2/26/23, 3:12 AM

yes the gearboxes at 10:1 allow for much higher forces at the grip than the 5:1 (? not sure what exact pulley ratio is) belt system. 35deg full throw translates to 350 degrees of the motor is used. Any more and the encoder gets stupid and if you switch it on at the endpoint it will think its on the next rotation. so keeping it under 360 works great. these are ultra low backlash servo gearboxes, i tried some cheapo ones first and it jus felt sloppy. plus they have a beefy bearing in them to act as at least one of the gimbal axes. i dont have it fully built yet but just bench testing with the flight stick in one axis felt wonderful

Ye Old Grog•2/26/23, 11:31 AM

Gearboxes without backlash would give a more precise feel than transferring through a rubber band. It's something the simracer guys have learned. They are more expensive and the sim has to provide enough detail for it to be worthwhile though.

I have high hopes for smitty's setup.

smitty•2/26/23, 4:51 PM

i wouldnt say belts are rubber bands haha they can be plenty stiff with kevlar reinforcements but the ratio im going for wouldnt be practical with pulleys

Ye Old Grog•2/26/23, 7:35 PM

I know. I was definitely exaggerating for effect. There is some belt play as shown by Walmis compensating for it.
I think the 10:1 ratio you are going for is possible with a belt but the pulley is getting really large at that point.

Fred•2/27/23, 3:14 AM

Hey I got the vpforce with monsterech mount ; what fasteners do I want to attach the two?

FFred Hey I got the vpforce with monsterech mount ; what fasteners do I want to attach...

walmis•2/27/23, 4:37 AM

Regular M5 bolts will do the trick

Fred•2/27/23, 4:45 AM

Thanks

PiNKSH!T•2/27/23, 5:33 AM

Hey guys does anyone have experience with HID hide? I've hit the 8 peripheral limit in IL2 & I want to use the VPforce loopback app & HID hide to make my vkb grip & the Rhino base show as one & IL2 not to see my VKB independently. Any help would be great, cheers

amadeus•2/27/23, 8:19 AM

Ok, interesting bug I came across -- in Team Speak -- I can't assign any rhino buttons to hotkeys. It's like they somehow don't register a press up event or something? hard for me to explain, but i basically can't setup any push to talk binds in team speak using joystick buttons attached to the rhino. When I press the button to record a press, the gray box appears, and when i press a button on the rhino, either one of two things will happen: nothing will register, or if something does register, it won't dismiss the dialog, requiring me to press another button (like mouse button or a keyboard button that then turns it into a combo

Jon (Bounty_V)•2/27/23, 8:28 AM

Had you tried a workaround of setting the button in question to function as a key on your keyboard?

amadeus•2/27/23, 8:31 AM

My current workaround has been to map it to a button on my virpil throttle for now

ddrake1984•2/27/23, 9:09 AM

Map to Voicattack and Map back

Mr. S•2/27/23, 10:54 AM

just sent the !info to VPforcebot but it says my email cannot be found?

MMr. S just sent the !info to VPforcebot but it says my email cannot be found?

walmis•2/27/23, 1:11 PM

I think you mistyped your email

Wwalmis I think you mistyped your email

Mr. S•2/27/23, 3:09 PM

I did, thanks for pointing that out.

PPiNKSH!T Hey guys does anyone have experience with HID hide? I've hit the 8 peripheral li...

skyPickle•2/27/23, 4:05 PM

yeh i tried it but turning it on/off was intrusive - instead i got a usb hub with a single on off switch and plugged my cougar flight panels and homemade arduino boxes into it. now before flying IL2, i can quickly and easily switch off a bunch of controllers

SskyPickle yeh i tried it but turning it on/off was intrusive - instead i got a usb hub wit...

PiNKSH!T•2/27/23, 4:07 PM

yeah only trouble is I have 9 thigs I want plugged in for IL2, so just want to couple the vkb grip with the Rhino then hide the grip from IL2 as a standalone grip

PPiNKSH!T yeah only trouble is I have 9 thigs I want plugged in for IL2, so just want to c...

indifferent badger•2/27/23, 4:38 PM

Have you looked into using vJoy and Joystick Gremlin?

PiNKSH!T•2/27/23, 4:39 PM

no I never really looked into them, can I use them to combine multiple peripherals into one?

indifferent badger•2/27/23, 4:40 PM

I believe so yes.

indifferent badger•2/27/23, 4:40 PM

See this video. https://youtu.be/W6CFPW4go0M

YouTubeRedLir Live

Joystick Gremlin - Quick Start Guide

In this video we walk through the basic setup and configuration of Joystick Gremlin, including HidHide and VJOY. We'll give you the break down on how to hide physical joysticks from a game and consolidate them down to virtual joysticks, mouse & keyboard.

VJOY ► https://github.com/jshafer817/vJoy/releases
HIDHIDE► https://github.com/ViGEm/Hid...

AndyHill•2/27/23, 4:40 PM

yes

PiNKSH!T•2/27/23, 4:40 PM

well it's almost 3am for me so I'm off to bed, but I'll check that out tomorrow & see if it's what I need, thanks heap

indifferent badger•2/27/23, 4:41 PM

No problem GL.

Dddrake1984 Map to Voicattack and Map back

amadeus•2/27/23, 6:28 PM

What does this entail? Although of course, ideally, it's probably properly fixed with something in the Rhino firmware? It's weird cause no other game or app has any problem with the Rhino thonk

(TrackIR is fine, all the sims I've played are fine, Discord shortcut support with a controller works fine..., Joystick Gremlin works fine....)

Aamadeus What does this entail? Although of course, ideally, it's probably properly fixed...

Stoned KakapoOP•2/27/23, 7:01 PM

fellow teamspeak user

amadeus•2/27/23, 7:02 PM

begrudging team speak user :p

PPiNKSH!T no I never really looked into them, can I use them to combine multiple periphera...

smitty•2/27/23, 7:37 PM

yep i do this too, make a vjoy device with all the axes and buttons, and then in gremlin you can map multiple physical devices to it. gremlin also has the HID hide thing built in so you can set it up in there.

Aamadeus *begrudging team speak user* :p

Stoned KakapoOP•2/27/23, 8:52 PM

We've got the superior audio codec, we've got that going for us

bright side

amadeus•2/28/23, 1:01 AM

them's fightin words

SskyPickle is there a place we could list the dcs bugs that give weird FFB behavior? For ex...

SwiftVengeance•3/1/23, 3:15 AM

that happens on all modules I have tested so far

leninjahd•3/2/23, 5:43 PM

Can i use this Grip with the rhino? https://www.fsprojects.eu/sidestick-a320.html

Sidestick Airbus for HOTAS Magnetic Base

Plug-and-play A320 Sidestick 100% compatible with the Thrustmaster HOTAS Magnetic Base and Thrustmaster HOTAS Warthog.
PTT & AP/Disc buttons fully working.
Just plug the sidestick into the base, screw the adapter, then fly!
100% compatible with rubber gaiters https://www.fsprojects.eu/airbus-rubber-gaiter.html

Asdforce•3/2/23, 6:41 PM

I figure it should work, since Thrustmaster grips work on the Rhino.

walmis•3/2/23, 6:52 PM

Yeah I think so too

TrigaNZ•3/3/23, 5:18 AM

Just had my first blast with the Rhino, most excellent, choppers are going to be fantastic. First noob question. Can't get the trim in aeroplanes to work in DCS. It correctly binds and flashes when you push a button, but it won't trim in flight. Tried the A-10C and F-14. WW F-16EX Grip.

Magpie•3/3/23, 6:23 AM

Do you notice the stick moving?

TTrigaNZ Just had my first blast with the Rhino, most excellent, choppers are going to be...

PiNKSH!T•3/3/23, 6:53 AM

If you can bind the trim to an axis or an encoder it might allow you to move the trimmer axis in larger motions a bit faster & this could help you feel the stick move more. Just am idea to check whether or not the stick moves with trim as it can be hard to tell with finer adjustments.

MMagpie Do you notice the stick moving?

TrigaNZ•3/3/23, 7:15 AM

No, it does not move.

sydost•3/3/23, 7:16 AM

F-14 has a setting in specials tab which you have to activate to get FFB trim working.

sydost•3/3/23, 7:17 AM

If I remember correctly.

sydost•3/3/23, 7:20 AM

And first the stupid question just to make sure. Do you have FFB enabled in DCS?

Ssydost And first the stupid question just to make sure. Do you have FFB enabled in DCS?

TrigaNZ•3/3/23, 7:33 AM

Thanks, yes to both.

sydost•3/3/23, 7:47 AM

You have spring effect enabled at VPForce config and haven’t selected forced effect on to anything?

TTrigaNZ Just had my first blast with the Rhino, most excellent, choppers are going to be...

walmis•3/3/23, 7:51 AM

Yeah we need a bit more info

Could you screenshot the "Effects" tab of the VPforce utility?

Wwalmis Yeah we need a bit more info 🙂 Could you screenshot the "Effects" tab of the VP...

TrigaNZ•3/3/23, 9:05 AM

Will do it tomorrow, bed time here I’m afraid.

Ssydost You have spring effect enabled at VPForce config and haven’t selected forced eff...

TrigaNZ•3/4/23, 4:43 AM

Thanks, Forced Effect was the culprit. Would be nice to have a Config depository for different A/C as a start place for we Noobs, or at least a screenshot collection. Cheers

Ah ok! Like go to in effects and untick all the boxes? And also, the force effect 2nd box underneath

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