Not sure about Condor 2 but for MSFS2020 I just use XPForce software it works well enough, until Wal

Not sure about Condor 2 but for MSFS2020 I just use XPForce software it works well enough, until Walmis makes a msfs telem app like the dcs one

. Trim moves the stick you get AoA & stall buffeting & other general effects.

PPiNKSH!T Not sure about Condor 2 but for MSFS2020 I just use XPForce software it works we...

mechsicko•3/5/23, 4:33 AM

My MSFFII works without XPForce quite well in Condor and Condor2, they've always had great native FF implementation. Never hooked anything to the rudder axis but there's a checkbox for it in the menu. Now if only they weren't such curmudgeons about supporting VR and didn't disable AA in the graphics >_>

If anyone is on the fence about XPForce for MSFS it also works quite well.. like good enough I forget that extra layer is even there since you start the sim by launching that app.

ddaniel414•3/5/23, 5:00 AM

I must be the only one that doesn’t like xpforce in msfs2020 with the rhino. Some of the effects are fine, but if I pitch up, I get large forces pitching me up even more. Same for pitching down. I tried lowering some of the settings but it didn’t fix things. These forces aren’t realistic imo. As for condor 2 and DCS, I love the native ffb support and everything works great without xpforce or any other 3rd party software.

Dddaniel414 I must be the only one that doesn’t like xpforce in msfs2020 with the rhino. Som...

walmis•3/5/23, 6:50 AM

You can tweak those forces using "Constant Force" slider in VPforce.

Those forces simulate moving the control surfaces into the air stream, so if you have high AoA, your pitch neutral force would be somewhat back. XPforce tries to simulate that, but the strength of that effect might be off.

fastjet273•3/5/23, 8:23 AM

@pinksht how did you configure msfs2020 and xpforce to get the trum to move your stick? If I use alternate trim, the stick moves in opposite direction of the trim but only in the sim. The rhino doesn't move

marvin•3/5/23, 12:54 PM

hi, will the xpforce work with MSFS2020? does it required a midware?

AndyHill•3/5/23, 12:57 PM

2020 doesn't have native ffb support, for example the abovementioned xpforce should do the trick

Mmarvin hi, will the xpforce work with MSFS2020? does it required a midware?

PiNKSH!TOP•3/5/23, 1:18 PM

The VPforce RHINO FFB Base will work with the 3rd party software XPForce for MSFS2020 to give ffb effects.

Ffastjet273 @pinksht how did you configure msfs2020 and xpforce to get the trum to move your...

PiNKSH!TOP•3/5/23, 1:19 PM

Hey m8, sorry I was doing an ARMA 3 Op. I don't think I really had to change any settings for xpforce to work the trim properly. I'll try jump on tomorrow & see

Dentedend10•3/5/23, 5:34 PM

Hi. Anyone with a DoF reality platform in here? I wonder if you were able to mount the base to the unit

AndyHill•3/5/23, 7:51 PM

Just looking at the thing I'd say depends on how much tinkering you're willing to do

AndyHill•3/5/23, 7:52 PM

the structure seems easily solid enough and building a mounting for that shouldn't be too hard if you have the tools to do it

skyPickle•3/6/23, 12:08 AM

When I go to the xpforce web page at

skyPickle•3/6/23, 12:08 AM

https://www.fsmissioneditor.com/

The Hangarfsmissioneditor

The Hangar

The Hangar - Tools for Flight Simulation, Elite:Dangerous and Bad Elf GPS.

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skyPickle•3/6/23, 12:12 AM

Has anyone tried this:

skyPickle•3/6/23, 12:12 AM

https://github.com/joeyjojojunior/simFFB

GitHub

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AndyHill•3/6/23, 12:19 AM

Of course I can't guarantee anything, but false positives are a thing

AAndyHill the structure seems easily solid enough and building a mounting for that shouldn...

Dentedend10•3/6/23, 4:07 AM

that's the thing, I only have some basic tools and would def prefer a ready-made mounting solution

DDentedend10 Hi. Anyone with a DoF reality platform in here? I wonder if you were able to mou...

fastjet273•3/6/23, 6:18 AM

Yes. Look at my posts for pics

VPforceBot•3/6/23, 10:08 AM

:package:

RHINO #0061 Has Shipped!

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 10:53 AM

Hi, I checked the faq. But still have some questions. How long is the wait list if i buy it now. What i need to buy to have a ready to go cyclic? The ffb kit + rhino base?

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 10:54 AM

I still need to buy a cyclic grip for myself? And how the buttons will work.

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 10:59 AM

I already have a mssidewinderffb with a extension mod but not with the resistor mod.

Ggtwgiorelli Hi, I checked the faq. But still have some questions. How long is the wait list ...

PiNKSH!TOP•3/6/23, 10:59 AM

Hey m8, The RHINO Base is a ready to go force feedback base & has a wait list atm, the motor kits are available to be posted out within a few days, the motor's in the kits are specially selected by Walmis to work as FFB along with his USB PCB. The base will work out of the box with Thrustmaster & Virpil grips Walmis has adapters for Winwing & VKB grips, the base is compatible with extensions but it is not as necessary as other bases due to the RHINO having a massive throw length.

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 11:05 AM

Thanks for the info.

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 11:05 AM

Omg lol

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 11:07 AM

The extension would be more about the ergonomics.

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 11:09 AM

So the motor kits are kinda ready to ship, but i will need the rhino base that has a waiting list. How long do you think is the waiting list?

walmis•3/6/23, 11:10 AM

Yeah basically you have two routes: you can get a motor kit and DIY the mechanics/gimbal/etc. or wait for the finished RHINO base. The wait list is pretty long, could be a year of wait.

gtwgiorelli•3/6/23, 11:12 AM

I would like the rhino base. But with a year long wait i will see what i can do. There is some tutorials available? Im familiar with diy servo motors.

ddrake1984•3/6/23, 11:12 AM

does anyone know maybe walmis? but I just want dampening at the endstops.. like from 90%-100% of the +X and -X

ddrake1984•3/6/23, 11:13 AM

I don't want dampening between -X(0-90%)/+X(0-90%)

ddrake1984•3/6/23, 11:13 AM

just to slow down the endstops bounce

walmis•3/6/23, 11:47 AM

set the endstop power to 0%, then only dampening should remain

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walmis•3/6/23, 4:34 PM

It's BLDC, steppers are not optimal for FFB

alphamike•3/6/23, 5:59 PM

Hello, how can i build this myself?

AndyHill•3/6/23, 7:18 PM

I feel like the manual could be a little simpler in structure

AndyHill•3/6/23, 7:19 PM

like maybe welcome - getting started - main stuffs - extras

AndyHill•3/6/23, 7:19 PM

you have 5 seconds to complain or my idea is approved

Jon (Bounty_V)•3/6/23, 8:34 PM

If it isn't out by the time I get mine in however many months, maybe I'll do the lowest effort quick guide

Aalphamike Hello, how can i build this myself?

Stoned Kakapo•3/6/23, 10:06 PM

You get the kit, but you have to figure out how to make your gimbal and housing

RustBelt•3/6/23, 10:23 PM

Or not gimbal. I know it’s “traditional” for PC joysticks, but if you have the room separate X and Y hinge points is much stronger, and what most planes actually use. And with the big motors you’re getting into actual plane forces

Ffastjet273 Yes. Look at my posts for pics

Dentedend10•3/7/23, 3:11 AM

thank you! I see you used some plywood? could you send me some more pics? no urgency, considering the waitlist is a year long

SStoned Kakapo You get the kit, but you have to figure out how to make your gimbal and housing

alphamike•3/7/23, 9:12 AM

Ok so how do i get diy kit?

Aalphamike Ok so how do i get diy kit?

PiNKSH!TOP•3/7/23, 9:30 AM

faq should have the link to order kits or Rhino bases. Also there are plenty of ppl who have made gimbal designs I'm sure if you ask around you'll find I'm sure that can give you a hand with the design or at least point you in the right direction.

Magpie•3/7/23, 11:18 AM

Charming dcs ffb moment
I was flying the a8 and one of my elevators got shot off. I only noticed because the force to pull back reduced to half! I wouldn’t have known with my old stick

walmis•3/7/23, 11:18 AM

Nice that DCS implemented this in the fist place!

Jon (Bounty_V)•3/7/23, 1:55 PM

That's really cool

MMagpie Charming dcs ffb moment I was flying the a8 and one of my elevators got shot of...

Stoned Kakapo•3/7/23, 5:18 PM

I've noticed similar effects on the spitfire! Might need to give both 190s and the 109 a spin soon.
This has made dogfighting on warbirds so exhilarating

Not sure about Condor 2 but for MSFS2020 I just use XPForce software it works well enough, until Wal

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