W@mike_aka_mugs has this grip
Dah, apologies, it works in DCS, didn't show up to be working in the vpforce program
Dthe button it's assigned to is 45,46,47,48
AQuestion: when updating firmware, will existing settings be wiped out? Just want to check if I should screenshot them before updootin
WNope, it should migrate automatically. But you can always export them to a file as a backup.
PUmmm bugger, I seem to have lost all my config's. I just did the firmware update & downloaded the newest config app, when I moved my config folder I made to the new app to tidy things up I launched the config app & when I try to import my configs they're gone?
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PI found them
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Aso one question i have -- it would be nice to be able to manually define the center position raw value -- i'm finding that with calibration and tweaks -- it's basically impossible for me to get my Y axis to have 2048 as my center without severely limiting the throw (or I am perhaps doing something wrong?)
Aafter a calibration and some manual tweaks of the end points -- i have around these settings (was able to tweak X to have 2048 exactly tho
WYou don't need to
WJust run the calibration and the values will be "correct"
Ai guess i am confused by this note then:
WYeah, this is for when you are putting on belts, so the motor encoder values are not in between turns.
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Pthat's mine & my Rhino acts fine
Pthough if you don't know it wrong you won't know it's wrong so always ask
Pis mine wrong?
Awell each device will be different
Abut yeah -- what walmis said makes sense, i should mostly ignore how those C values turn out, since calibration will basically sort that
A(or i assume -- center will just be whatever the halfway point between the min and max are)
WYeah, this is the motor "physical" center
WYou guys can set up Force Comp defaults for the Rhino, so you will get full axis travel when under force tension.
Ayup! that's what i am tuning now -- takes a bit of math or trial and error to figure out
A(setting the spring to 100%, turn it completely down, move it to full deflection, figure out how far off from 4096 it, and use that approx value)
ASmall thing — after this new firmware update (and it may be unrelated), but fans sometimes are making a different sound?
AFor reference, this is what they generally sound like
WHow did you make this comparison? 
Ait sometimes happens heh
Ai used the test fans button tho
Asounds like something might be sometimes contacting a fan blade?
Wthe grill maybe slightly touches the fan hub perhaps?
Dissue resolved in the new firmware/software
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Dnew request, if this can be an axis
Wdoes it change any data when you move the paddle?
Won the F-16EX it works
DI'll check
Dnope
Dhmm.. maybe its only an F16 thing, I'll check the orion base and get back to you
Dagh im wrong
VI just moved from that grip to the f16 grip, the f16 brings a lot more to the table and the f18 is only useful for simulating an authentic harrier / f18 experience
MAh, so the paddle sw is also an axis on the F16ex, Just ordered one 
PIs there somewhere I can see the fan rpm? I never hear my fans going, I do use a noise canceling headset. I saw my temps @38° for X & a little less for Y axis last night & it just got me wondering.
P@walmis I also had a funny thing happen with the base after playing DCS for a bit, I was in the dcs main menu & was moving the stick to feel the endstops, that's when the motor gave a sort of 'shudder' or 'vibration' the base gave out a series of rapid beeps then the motors cut out, this repeated I think twice I then unplugged the base as I was finishing up with dcs anyway. I was wondering if this was due to overheating maybe? the temps I mentioned above were only early on during use & I didn't see what they got up to.
DSame thing with me. But I was messing with all manner of things at the time, no idea what caused it
DJust got home from work. I’ll give it a good play test soon
DFrom memory it was when I had the stick in the corner that caused this
WYeah, I'll need to tweak the endstops a little. This is nothing serious, just the motors failsafe'd due to potential oscillation