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DFound this on wiki
PI also like to think of the FFB base not just for giving the exact feelings the aircraft would give through the stick, but also to add some effects that we might otherwise feel through the seat or the body of the aircraft our our own bodies since we're not able to feel all these things without some major hardware in many cases, maybe as things like a "jetSeat" & butt kickers are added some less realistic effects could be removed from the stick. Things like flying a FBW F18 & feeling through the stick each wheel leave/hit the ground is really handy even though we likely wouldn't feel this the same way through a 'real FBW' stick. Anyway just my take.
DThis is why I want buttkicker& jetseat
PIs this with or without the Telem app? Sorry if I've missed this answer already.
DGood point, last I remember magpie was scared to use the telem app
DOr was he expecting the effects to be present by default without the app
PYeah that's my main question really, I haven't tested the Sabre with the Rhino yet. It's all up to the individual module makers whether or not there's any FFB effects & if any what they are.
DI was flying huey last night, found that the telem app was needed
DNot for “extra” effects, but just the ground resonance
DIs there a list someone has done that explains all the aircraft with their default ffb effects and the additional ones? I think someone should do this
DI think @magpiee should do it
MI guess I fly all the planes
MI just need to learn how the stick functions irl too in order to contest it
MI haven't used the telem app yet
DWell.. huey has force trim by default, telem adds additional feel of buffeting and guns firing from what I have tested (minimally)
DIm curious to test the new firmware endstops, not sure what some of the other firmware options means tho
Phey m8, sorry been afk. I think this was talked about when people make changes &/or add effects to different aircraft we could post them on github? I always use the telem app when flying dcs, I could be wrong but I understood it to be that the app will only add effects not overwrite any that are default for the module.
DYeah, I use the telem too, was just curious to know what default effects are enabled for the airframes and what the telem is providing as additional and could provide if configured
=I don't use FFB yet, so I can't be much help there unfortunately
DWell, the question was more around the sensations that are supposedly felt for the sabre
=Ah, I'll have a sticky beak in the manual and see if I can find anything on it later
=But I would imagine it'd feel lighter than the 15 due to better dampeners
=Maybe stiffness around 0.95M in the roll
PI'd assume the flight controls are conected to the stick in a sabre so you should feel quite a lot from the sabre
DQuestion was around coupled or decoupled hydraulics
Pthis could be the reason too 
=Ok, I'll have a look tonight for a definitive answer
DIll fly the sabre, but I know hart knows “people” and has access to “warthunder level documents” 
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We can see the visual effect at high angle turns, stalls and spins but there is no ffb effect on joystick controller. You have added ffb effects on mig-15 and works great. Will you implement those effects on F-86 later? Thanks
Pit's discussed here 2016, but have a look in the manual it has a few sections on the controls in the sabre
Plooks like they are hydraulic but can be disengaged manually
CHey guys! I fly mostly Dcs but lately flight simulator 2020 is getting some nice additions, i was wondering how much support there is for fs2020 for this FFB stick right now, for example force trim and such , is that in the VPForce software or does the simulator have to support that? I see some videos measuring force at around 5kg at the stick base , has anyone made measurements around the handle area where the hand would be? And lastly how long is the wait currently if an order was made today? Thank you :))
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VHey @.flatspin,
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0064 on 2023-03-21
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 141 days, median is 181 days, max is 209 days
64 Rhinos are shipped in total
So the last Shipped RHINO is #0064 on 2023-03-21
Average waiting time from preorder to shipped is 141 days, median is 181 days, max is 209 days
64 Rhinos are shipped in total
MSabre controls don't even tense up as you go fast
MIts kinda like the Hornet
MExcept no fbw
DLegend
DThis is exactly what I was looking for
D@hart28 you have been replaced, hand in your Sabre card
PUmm has anyone tried the new EndStops?
P@walmis I had my suspicions about you, but this confirms it you deal in black magic
DGonna try it after din dins
Pthere's a legit 'bump' at the endstops now!
DUmmm what now?
DEsplain
DI don’t want it to bounce
Pmy endstop power setting is @ 50%, but I get a noticeable feeling now hitting the end