there's that test fans button under debug that you can click to make sure the fans work
there's that test fans button under debug that you can click to make sure the fans work
POh cheers m8, I never looked there. Thanks
AWhat does "FWD" mean on the restrictor plates actually mean, towards or away from the big red button? Also what's the official name for the sort of screws you need to unscrew to get the dust cover off?
WFWD is towards the front gear
WIt's a Torx T5 IIRC
TQuestion for those with the 86BLFXX motor kits, what are you using to mount these? The mounting holes are 5.5mm diameter, are you tapping M6 or using a through hole fastener?
AWhat is the signifigance of FWD in the restrictor plates? If someone for example wants less travel forward but has the base mounted backwards, can he just set FWD to point towards what is forwards for him or do the plates always need to be installed in a specific direction and need to be ordered "backwards"?
Phey m8, I don't have a restrictor plate atm so take what I say with a pinch of salt, but if the screw holes line up I'd assume it wouldn't matter what orientation your base is, if the FWD plate will fit & line up at the front then it should be fine, just do a calibration after & you should be fine
YWasn't there some talk about asymmetric real systems?
Marking one as fwd would prevent that being reversed by mistake
Marking one as fwd would prevent that being reversed by mistake
TYou are right about the screw holes but if you had an asymmetric restrictor plate, you’d want to calibrate without the plate and then apply the plate. Otherwise your stick will be centered in the restrictor plate and no longer asymmetric.
Sreally like the new software but im having trouble with the FC3 jets. I calibrated the Rhino in the VPconfigurator and it has complete excursion to all quadrants in the little graphic box in the bottom left corner of the vpconfig app. But in flight, the stick has to be 1/2 way forward for level flight. Even the trim when reset goes 1/2 way forward. See attached pic which is level flight in an A10-A
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SThe blue circle represents neutral trim. The blue dot indicates stick position.
PI get this in the A10a before the update
PI might be wrong, but if you calibrate the Rhino then place a restrictor on it you'll never reach the actual end of the axis you calibrated. Where if you calibrated it with the restrictor plate in place then this would be calibrated with one axis asymmetric.
SI do not have a restrictor plate and dont even know why I would use one.
SI repeated this flight with FFB OFF and the only difference is that the blue circle stayed at the center, but the stick still needed to be pushed forward halfway. Interestingly, the indicators (the orange lines in the next pic) seem to show the stick in neutral position.
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PYeah one thing I noticed was how asymmetric the control indicator is, having the really sort +Y axis, maybe the game is trying to replicate this when someone has ffb? not sure why it would do this though?
MThis is the reason you make the restrictor plate. Turns out sticks don't travel as far forward as they do back
TYou are right, you wouldn’t reach the end, but the center point needs to be retained from the pre-restricted calibration, otherwise the center will be in the middle of the restrictor plate edges.
TI thought it was modeled correctly because IRL you have more rear travel than forward because the standard procedure is “roll and pull”. Negative G is a no-no so you don’t need a lot of forward travel.
TI haven’t played with mine yet, still building my kit but I’ve seen some others ask about the stick forward when trimmed and those were the reasons given.
SIn the F15C (another flaming cliffs module) the stick is in the center position for neutral flight-so it behaves as expected.
Sbut in the A10C and the A10C_2, the stick position for neutral flight is half way forward.
PYeah I think I've seen this conversation in here before, ergonomics & cockpit design also comes into play. So with the restrictor plates do we calibrate, install restrictors then just set software endstops to match? or just use the config app to manually set axis ends?
SOther aircraft where the position for neutral flight is properly centered are the JF17, the SU25, SU27, and the Viggen.
SI think the only way to solve this is to have a center point that is different for each aircraft.
PI noticed on the f18 yesterday that no matter how tight I make the endstop for the +Y axis (trying to match the jet) I still only get halfway through the axis by the time the in game stick has hit full deflection forward?
S@walmis is it possible to have an offset for the center point?
Pyeah well I have been making a config profile for each aircraft so far, tell a lie I haven't done the A10a yet
Pwouldn't that be the Axis Scaling setting in effects tab?
S@pinksht I guess you achieve that through the axis scaling option?
SIll have to play around with that to see how it can improve the A10. Gotta go now, it's late here.
PI haven't used it myself yet, I was just guessing that might be the setting to move the axis center? Cheers m8, cya later
HIt's definitely noticeable in the F-14 that the centerpoint with neutral trim is way far forward, but it matches the actual control indicator in-game (Right Ctrl + Enter)
MYou need to change the calibrated axis end for the push part of the y axis. I cant imagine how far forward your stick goes in the 29 at high mach
HTo be honest, I never tried modifying the calibration beyond making sure it was actually centered, since the stick always seems to match the control throw of the in-game aircraft
MTry it. I know I won’t go back. My calibration only goes like 15 degrees past vertical. However I have a large extension
MI only got to doing that by correlating vr stick position with the rhino one
PSorry just to clarify are we talking about changing the Axis Scaling setting in Effects tab?
MNo just when you calibrate the whole thing
HI'm confused about why/to what extent I'd recalibrate the center to change it
HSince I actually prefer having a much shorter forward throw
HHaving the neutral position shift itself forward is honestly quite nice
MYou recalibrate the end of the Y axis. Try a few values till you get one that feels right
PSorry m8, do you mean change the max setting in there
MYeah
HI'm still skeptical here. You're either saying to desaturate one side of the pitch axis, which would just reduce the total usable throw range, or move the center calibration point, neither of which seem like something I'd want
Pahh ok, so that will change the physical axis limit & then the software will soft it out so you still hit 4096 when you reach the physical limit?