Oh that’s perfect if that’s the case, so it just becomes one unit in the game?
Oh that’s perfect if that’s the case, so it just becomes one unit in the game?
NThe Rhino specifically, I got the impression the Brunner isn’t that desirable in comparison
AI don't think I've actually tested loopback for that
Pyep, use the VPforce Loopback app to "join" the grip & base, then use HIDHide to hide the joystick from whatever sim you choose
Athat's an interesting point I missed actually
PHang on, you saw a YT vid of a Rhino overheating in 90 seconds? Or did I missunderstand?
Aminutes
NMinutes
NSeconds would be pretty funny though
Pit's really handy, if I wasn't so lazy I would redo all my DCS binds like that too
AI got it to overheat when testing, but it was not very dramatic
NI don’t think “overheating” is necessarily the right term, but the reviewer mentions heat protection measures when it hit 50 degrees
Ait happens if you fly horribly out of trim (DR1 in Il-2) for extended period of time
N“Horribly out of trim” is usually how people describe my flying style anyways
Poh, sorry just miss read, that's funny I've played IL2 for a good few hours before & had no trouble, DCS lately has just been training missions though doing those for a good couple hrs at a time I never even heard the fans kick in very loud, or at all really, got a link?
Ado note that by the time you reach that point you will probably feel like you've been wrestling with the plane
Ait's also one of the compromises FFB sticks all tend to make
NYep, it was a stress test for the purpose of overheating it, but my concern is primarily that I would be using it less intensely but for multiple hours at a time
https://youtu.be/-s66xV3URy4
https://youtu.be/-s66xV3URy4
YouTubeAntti Ilomäki
I'm not ready to state anything conclusive as of yet, so here's basically a live recording of some stress testing. Jump to the relevant bits if you wish, but should you want to, you can just watch the whole thing and see exactly what happens in-game while I run the test.
Unfortunately I had some problems with sound cutting out, but you should ...
Unfortunately I had some problems with sound cutting out, but you should ...
Pahh ok, I'll have to keep an eye on the temps more & maybe try some stress test flying to see what temps I get
Athe ability to provide max force indefinitely requires either incredible cooling or setting the forces really low
Athat's actually me, btw
NOh really lol
Ayeah wouldn't trust that dude very much
NHave I been sat explaining your own review to you this whole time
Anot really, it's not a review as such
Aunfortunately you can't quite see the adapter in that vid
NYou should definitely consider a similar video on some DCS modules if you do use those
Pwell like I mentioned above I can say that I've used it for maybe upto 3hrs on IL2 hard to say how much on DCS lately but a lot of training missions for at least 2 - 3 hrs I've only seen temps at 34*
NProbably shouldn’t be too bad then, my room tends to be a little too cold anyways
NSo the fans would benefit
Aone thing with overheating is that planes tend to run out of either fuel or energy or both fairly quickly in a dogfight so you won't be yanking on the stick for hours
Aalso if you're so inclined, the Rhino allows you to cheat by giving you a trim on all planes
Aso for example you don't have to fight the DR1 all the way to the stratosphere
PI'm not sure how it would work with power draw & basically every other aspect, but I wonder if extra fans or larger fans could be used in over heating was a problem?
Athere's probably also space considerations in how big fans and cooling holes you can have in the Rhino base
NThat 800€ price tag is shrinking by the minute
NMaybe this isn’t a decision to be made at 03.30 at night though lol
Amaybe have a few drinks to help you think
Aanyway all of my experiences are basically extended initial impressions so I'm not going to recommend anything yet
AI don't for example really know how much of an issue the overheating is actually going to be
AThe Rhino just has so many answers to so many of the problems I've personally had with other controllers that I'm very impressed so far
PAlso with it's adapters the Rhino can work with any grip from TM, Virpil, Winwing & VKB, so you don't need to buy the expensive bases if you wish to get a grip from another company
NI wouldn’t sign up for the waiting list without being 100% certain I will buy it when the offer comes, but it seems to be a long wait
NI have the MCGU right now and I’m super happy with it, if I was able to stick with that I definitely would
Awell that vid of mine is with MCGU as it's my favorite grip of all time
Aor is it
AI don't remember, it could also be the mongoos
AI did test the mongoos as well as the MCGU, frankly didn't bother with TM stuffs
Poh yeah I have the same grip & tbh it's really the only grip you need, apart from a few funky grips for heli's the MCGU can cover anything, so that & the Rhino you're set, you'll never need another base &/or grip again really, well unless you want something for the f16 like WW MFSSB & it's grip 
NThat would take a second lottery win I think
Nand I haven’t even gotten the first one yet