VPforce Controls•3y ago

Does the AH-64 TelemFFB have effects for the main cannon below your feet firing?

JJaeger The TelemFFB "database" seems to get bigger every day, which is nice. I tied the...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:25 PM

Yeah it's possible

JJon (Bounty_V)Does the AH-64 TelemFFB have effects for the main cannon below your feet firing?

walmis•4/11/23, 1:26 PM

Yep, cannon/weapon fire effects are implemented

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•4/11/23, 1:26 PM

That's nifty

Magpie•4/11/23, 1:38 PM

[default]
type=Aircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.05 # peak AoA buffeting intensity 0 to disable
buffet_aoa = 10 # AoA when buffeting starts
stall_aoa = 15 # Stall AoA
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0 # peak runway intensity, 0 to disable
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.12
cm_vibration_intensity = 0.12
weapon_release_intensity = 0.12

[P-51D]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[MiG-21.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 8
stall_aoa = 16
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[MiG-29.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 15
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[FA-18C_hornet]
type=JetAircraft
runway_rumble_intensity=5.0
buffeting_intensity = 0.03
buffet_aoa = 14
stall_aoa = 23

[F-5E.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 11
stall_aoa = 13
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[F-14.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

[MiG-19P]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 8
stall_aoa = 22
buffeting_intensity = 0.05
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.2

[AV8BNA]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 10
stall_aoa = 17
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[P-47D.]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[FW-190A8]
type=PropellerAircraft
buffeting_intensity = 0.0 # implemented by DCS
runway_rumble_intensity = 1.0
engine_rumble = True # rumble based on RPM

[F-86F Sabre]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 16
stall_aoa = 18
buffeting_intensity = 0.05

[A-10.]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 20
stall_aoa = 24
buffeting_intensity = 0.05
gun_vibration_intensity = 0.3

[Mirage-F1.*]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

[AJS37]
type=JetAircraft
buffet_aoa = 17
stall_aoa = 20
buffeting_intensity = 0

Magpie•4/11/23, 1:39 PM

config.ini2.6KB

Vulcan•4/11/23, 1:39 PM

Thanks. After installing the limiter and recalibrating, if you accidentally bump the stick while not holding it, it can enter a violent oscillation state. Do you have any recommended setting to eliminate that? I tried the damper slider on the settings page but it didn't seem to fix it. Only concerned because it might damage the base or grip as it's pretty violent.

VVulcan Thanks. After installing the limiter and recalibrating, if you accidentally bump...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:49 PM

You can try setting Spring Filter to 8-10Hz, damper filter to 5 Hz and increasing "Spring Strength proportional damping". I have defaulted to 70% currently.

Reed•4/11/23, 1:50 PM

I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t currently support ffb but there is a plan to.

RReed I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t cur...

walmis•4/11/23, 1:57 PM

You can use Hardware trim feature and add a section to the TelemFFB for the UH-60 for the extra effects

Reed•4/11/23, 2:00 PM

Nice, when I get my unit, i may need help doing this. I onlly rotorwing, so huey, 64, 60, mi8, etc.

Wwalmis Hey, forgot that you can scale down X axis spring globally using the spring curv...

recoilfx•4/11/23, 2:00 PM

While I can scale it down, doesn't it get overriden by the game unless it's made sticky? But if I made it sticky, then variable spring force from the game no longer works. It would be nice to have separate spring X Y gains on the settings tab.

Rrecoilfx While I can scale it down, doesn't it get overriden by the game unless it's made...

walmis•4/11/23, 2:10 PM

The curve - no. It will stay for all springs. No need to sticky the effect.

recoilfx•4/11/23, 2:23 PM

Ahhh. Ok, great, I'll give it try! Thanks!

RReed I fly the uh-60l mod most of the time. How would I add this data. It doesn’t cur...

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:05 PM

I don't know how trim works in a real UH-60L but you can trim it just like a Huey with Walmis' hardware force trim even if the module author ignored FFB. Should work for any

really? For ETL, just add a couple of lines to TelemFFB config.ini and you're set. Walmis made everything so easy for us

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:07 PM

You can copy etl_ ... lines from any chopper and replace the airspeed values (they're in m/s)

LeLv30_Superbus•4/11/23, 3:08 PM

And the same for overspeed ofc

Wwalmis Yeah it's possible

Jaeger•4/11/23, 4:52 PM

Is it already in somewhere and just need a parameter or would it needed to be implemented first?

MMagpie Click to see attachment

amadeus•4/11/23, 7:45 PM

you should post this here: https://canary.discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1093558100713279508

Merlins51•4/11/23, 11:50 PM

Am having an issue with the F-16 and want to see if anyone else is experiencing this: On the F-16, the pitch axis spring force feels much weaker than the roll axis. I don't experience that on any other module. Anyone else experiencing that?

Magpie•4/12/23, 12:27 AM

I didn't even try the F16 with this.
I usually use a side stick for it
Its a FBW jet with a force sensor irl so dcs just makes something up in the absence of an expensive force sensing stick. Feel free to mess with the curves as much as you like, you're not going to get any approximation of realistic feel with our stick

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:21 AM

Buy Rhino & Winwing MFSSB & there's not many aircraft left you can't emulate

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:22 AM

I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never released

Dddrake1984 I want to see more warbird type grips, like the things Replika teased and never ...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:29 AM

I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

PPiNKSH!T I just want a Yak or LAG spade grip!

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

omfg, yes, that's all I want too

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:32 AM

well.. all I want to start with

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips would also do the spitfire but not the reverse. Oh they looked so dam good on the YT video too

PPiNKSH!T The Authentickit Spitfire grip looks good 'n all, but one of those Yak/Lag grips...

ddrake1984•4/12/23, 4:34 AM

it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you modify)

Dddrake1984 it is a nice grip, but can't be attached to anything other than AK (unless you m...

PiNKSH!T•4/12/23, 4:37 AM

yeah that's something that's kept it on the back burner for me, just need someone to make a TM adapted version then we'd be set, guess I could try frakenstine some Yak type controls onto the spitfire grip?

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:00 PM

The Russian spade grip was something I always wanted to model but had a hard time finding dimensions/specs. I always marveled at how Replika did it. Maybe he was like the bf109 guy from the AK discord who has access to a 1:1 plane and was able to go sit in the cockpit to take dimensions.

TheAmazinGreat•4/12/23, 12:01 PM

I even considered trying to pull a model from the IL2 game files but got burned out researching and sidetracked on another project

inpayne•4/13/23, 1:10 PM

Is the base sensitive enough to set up a f16 setting in the future? Like have it full stiff centered, and it could move like a psuedo fsb?

walmis•4/13/23, 1:13 PM

Yeah, it's possible to tweak it enough with the current implementation so it's a pseudo fssb. The trick is to get it stable enough so it doesn't oscillate

Naudiz•4/13/23, 11:57 PM

How would that work? By the motors detecting how much resistance they have to provide for the stick to not move, maybe?

Laur•4/14/23, 12:18 AM

Hey guys. I just put through a reservation. There was a category called accessories. Is that accessories that will come with the base or which accessories we already have?

LLaur Hey guys. I just put through a reservation. There was a category called accessor...

TheAmazinGreat•4/14/23, 12:46 AM

It should be what you want to come with it.

Laur•4/14/23, 12:46 AM

Thank you kind sir

TheAmazinGreat•4/14/23, 12:47 AM

No problem, welcome to the team!

NNaudiz How would that work? By the motors detecting how much resistance they have to pr...

walmis•4/14/23, 9:15 AM

You would set a very small movement range and the spring force would be proportional to throw

Wwalmis You would set a very small movement range and the spring force would be proporti...

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:47 AM

So it'll still have physical movement, not just force against the motors?

walmis•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Yeah you would still have some physical movement

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Ah alright, still pretty cool that it can emulate it to an extent

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:51 AM

Is the software aware of how much force the motors are applying?

walmis•4/14/23, 11:52 AM

yeah, motor Amps == Torque

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:52 AM

would be kinda fun to see if it could be emulated through the software then, but I probably don't have the know-how

Wwalmis Yeah you would still have some physical movement

PiNKSH!T•4/14/23, 11:53 AM

well that's all good, it's supposed to move a little bit, the F16 side grip moves a little bit

PPiNKSH!T well that's all good, it's supposed to move a little bit, the F16 side grip move...

Naudiz•4/14/23, 11:54 AM

I think the F-16 stick moves due to feel, since it felt too unnatural for it not to give any response at all

NNaudiz I think the F-16 stick moves due to feel, since it felt too unnatural for it not...

PiNKSH!T•4/14/23, 11:56 AM

yeah that's what I've heard in different docos etc. the force sensing stick was different enough for some pilots & to add on top the stick didn't move at all it ended up being changed to move a few mm in the x & y axis

LeeH•4/14/23, 12:03 PM

hey @walmis, lee from ars technica here - apologies for the bother, but would it be possible to swap a few e-mails back and forth? i've got a preorder in and I'm interested in reviewing the VPForce on Ars, and wanted to be able to send a few questions your way.

LeeH•4/14/23, 12:03 PM

(no worries if not, I don't want to be a pest or anything!)

Troll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴•4/14/23, 1:38 PM

@walmis how do you connect the kill switch? Does it cut the power from the power supply, or just the power to the motors?

Does the AH-64 TelemFFB have effects for the main cannon below your feet firing?

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