Is this price expected to increase between now and my order #200 ish
Is this price expected to increase between now and my order #200 ish
SHeres a question chaps. In the simracing world there are two schools of thought for FFB, Realistic and Immersive. Realistic is the feedback you’d actually expect from the wheel. Immersive makes up for the lack of motion/other feelings by amplifying effects through the stick.
Now, on an ffb flight stick, would you prefer realistic (FBW stick feels dead, warbird stick super shaky and gets harder over time) OR immersive (Feeling the runway bumps through the stick, feeling higher speed being harder to move even with fbw planes, increased stall buffets, damage pulls, really anything that you might normally feel through the plane not the stick)
Now, on an ffb flight stick, would you prefer realistic (FBW stick feels dead, warbird stick super shaky and gets harder over time) OR immersive (Feeling the runway bumps through the stick, feeling higher speed being harder to move even with fbw planes, increased stall buffets, damage pulls, really anything that you might normally feel through the plane not the stick)
WI would say unlikely 
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i am very hyped. Even if i have like, half a year to a year until i get mineWPersonally I like the additional effects, I'd like to imagine some of the 'immersive' effects would transfer from the airframe to the stick.
SIn some aircraft yes, in others no. But i 100% am on team immersive here. Im getting no other feedback other than the stick, so it needs to create that feeling of the aircraft but not overpower the trim/buffets etc from the stick itself. 
Phey m8, for me personally it's a mix of realism & immersion. I like the ability to configure the stick/base to act or 'feel' as realistic as possible for each aircraft flown whether that be having an asymmetric Y axis for modern jets, making the stick feel lighter for fbw & heavier for warbird & non fbw jets & also proper force trim in helis all the physical sort of stuff realism wise. But then I also like to have some of the less realistic ffb effects come through the stick, like Walmis said some of these effects might be felt more through the actual aircraft or the seat or pilot body itself. Some effects could be removed from the stick as other haptic feedback things like butt-kickers & jetseat are added. All in all the amount you can configure the Rhino & it's related telem app etc. is just amazing & will ultimately enhance the users sense of realism & immersion. 
SI cant remember the last time i was so excited for a flight sim product. This has the makings of a game-changer for the industry. I hope he has a patent out for how it works because the big guys will notice soon
PYeah the Rhino has been an absolute game changer for myself I went from the vkb GF3 base with mcgu/kg12 & 200mm curved extension, that was an insane feeling base coming from the x56 & x52pro before, but the change from gf3 to Rhino was even more game changing. Yeah it'd be good if the big guys like virpil, vkb & Winwing or even logitech 
got onto the ffb thing, given the fact flight sims & space sims are making a come back in the gaming community also it might help to see the popularity of a product like the Rhino.
got onto the ffb thing, given the fact flight sims & space sims are making a come back in the gaming community also it might help to see the popularity of a product like the Rhino.SI’m going from a T16000M, imagjne how I feel!
SOnly if Walmis licences his way of doing it to them! Would hate to see the big guns steamroller the guy that actually innovated here.
Pyeah, I mean you might notice some difference
SJust a teeeny tiny one
DI couldn’t agree more with this, I like to set realistic motion/range of motion so when flying the stick in simulation represents the same as close as possible and on the flip side I enjoy the immersive feel like weapon release obviously is not realistic for all planes and may not be realistic for some warbirds etc, but damn does it feel good to pull a trigger and it go brrt.
I cant wait to get both jetseat & b-kicker, and eventually when supported pedals
Also simple thing like pointctrl adds immersiveness without feedback, would be nice if there was a rumble motor or somethibg to simulate weightiness when flicking toggles/switches but its pretty nifty
I cant wait to get both jetseat & b-kicker, and eventually when supported pedals
Also simple thing like pointctrl adds immersiveness without feedback, would be nice if there was a rumble motor or somethibg to simulate weightiness when flicking toggles/switches but its pretty nifty
DWould love a g-seat to simulate g forces as well
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MIs anyone actually feeling any ffb on the c101?
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SI filled out the "Google forms" a month ago and hasn't heard anything. Is their anything else I should do.
IWhat I would like to see in the future is the app to be kinda like the flight sim for aviators app. What it does is sees which airframe you are on, and modifies the butt kicker effects for that aircraft. It also allows you to modify it for each aircraft. So if we were able to have different effects/ settings for each plane that would automatically select based on what aircraft you are using. These settings could be based on community data and be able to modify it to your own liking. For example I believe the f18 has different x and y forces. Being able to center the f14 and f5 stick, f16 setting and whatever else we can dream up. Skys the limit I’m sure.
PWell the telem app already sees which aircraft you're in & changes the effects to whatever has been set in the config for that aircraft, we can edit the ffb effects per aircraft too, just need to edit the config file, it'd be nice if there was a gui for it to make it easier but still we can do it. I think there's some kind of depository being made on the discord here for the different effects ppl have added to their telem app config for different aircraft. Also I think Walmis added something for changing the center point in the software. As you said the sky is the limit when it comes to the Rhino & ffb in sims!
IRight, but it’s only effects not stick setting as far as I’m aware. And it’s in python which I don’t really have the time or desire to learn. Don’t get me wrong it’s pretty awesome, I just think with some drop down menus and working with the vpforce stick app could provide some awesome features. Especially as the community grows, not everyone is a programmer
IAnyway that’s my dream, I have zero ability to make it happen. 
PPython was only needed by the user to install the telem app but there's an exe install version now & as far as editing the effects per aircraft it's only adding a few lines into the config file no need to learn python or any coding skills, easy enough that I could do it you can even just copy paste effects from one aircraft to another then just edit the numbers i.e. speed or angle of attach etc. But yeah at the end of the day a gui with drop down tabs for ffb effects per aircraft etc. would be really cool!
you can even just copy paste effects from one aircraft to another then just edit the numbers i.e. speed or angle of attach etc. But yeah at the end of the day a gui with drop down tabs for ffb effects per aircraft etc. would be really cool!
R6 more to go
RI have a jet seat and the additional immersion the rhino is going to give will be amazing
JI've got some ideas of what I might add in addition for further immersion, but for now I'll be content with the Rhino + VR
DIssue is that not all a/c have the same telem effects, there needs to be a sheet created that calls out every effect and what planes have them
JBelt tension system for example sounds amazing, especially since it could be configured to work with racing as well
PApart from the ultimate end goal of having a full 6dof motion rig I'd be happy with either 3x ~40" monitors or VR with; the Rhino, jet seat, butt kickers & a seat mover to top it off.
JHave you seen the recent NextLevelRacing seat pad?
Pyou mean not all aircraft send the same telem by default?
JPyeah I have & I've been considering getting that instead of the jetseat
JThe Jetseat is by Andre right
Pconsidering the extra hassle in getting a jetseat now days, plus the fact I'll have warranty in country at a store like JB Hi Fi or something
Pseen on forums ppl have got the HF8 working with the same software as the jetseat & butt kickers use, can't recall the name atm
Pso you don't need game specific software from NLR, just reads the telem like the jetseat does
JSimShaker?
Pyeah, SimShaker for Aviators I think
Pit's the aviation specific version
JThe Hf8 is just a rebranded Realteus and has all the exact same features, + any new software stuff NLR added
JWhatever I end up doing for more immersion I want it to be compatible with both flying and racing
PI was thinking when I start getting some decent sim racing gear I might just buy another cheap gaming chair like I have & just swap out chairs when going from flight to racing. I have my throttle mounted to the side arm of my 'flight' chair & have the mount on the right for a side stick or hosas for space sim.
JAs someone in the process of figuring out how I want to add flight to my racing cockpit it can definitely be a pain to merge the two together. Definitely making compromises for both and you end up with something somewhat suboptimal across the board, but it can be super convenient too with minimal time or effort on your part to change from one to the other
Pactually this made me think I need to sort out a floor mount for my truck sim gear shifter & jump back into some ETS2 I love driving through Europe listening to the radio stations of the country I'm in
I love driving through Europe listening to the radio stations of the country I'm in JIf I had the physical space I would have a dedicated flight sim cockpit and dedicated racing sim cockpit, and on flight sim I'd have at least a semi instrument panel dash (which isn't really achievable with a racing wheel mounted on the cockpit)
PWell one way I was wondering about merging flight & racing is if I ever get to build a ffb yoke, via VPforce motor kit ofc, I was thinking if it'd be possible to build it with the idea of being able to attach a wheel to too. though it wouldn't be a direct drive wheel 
maybe not then
maybe not thenJBest way would be to have it mounted in such a way to easily swap out yoke for racing
