If you do go VKB route VKB has something Virpil doesn't https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/mc

If you do go VKB route VKB has something Virpil doesn't

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/mcg-ultimate-grip-add-on

full aluminum alloy grip with omron and alps buttons/switches

VKB North America

MCG Ultimate Add-On Grip

Made for MCG Ultimate Add-On Grip Includes 1 MCG ‘Modern Combat Grip’ Ultimate Features MCG Ultimate Grip Right-hand grip design 24-32 programmable buttons, based on the module installed 5 analog axes (2x slew control mini stick axes / 2x trimmer mini stick axes / 1x brake lever axis) Dual-stage trigger (trigger 1) Me

SScotia wish i could see what the box uses to connect to the pc, might be able to use my...

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 9:04 PM

https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/gunfighter-mk-iii-base-only-1

VKB North America

Gunfighter Mk.III - Base Only

Gunfighter Mk.III - Base Only Includes 1 Gunfighter Mk.III Base 1 Tabletop base plate 1 BlackBox Mk2 1 Combo Cams Kit 1 50 cm (1.6′) interface cable 1 180 cm (6′) USB 2.0 cable 1 Set of springs (10, 20A, 30A, 40A) 1 Spring installation tool 1 Grip fastener Gunfighter Mk.III Base All-metal gimbal with adjustable axis da

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 9:05 PM

shows here

Scotia•5/17/23, 9:07 PM

looks like USB, i'll have to followup with them

LeLv30_Superbus•5/17/23, 9:24 PM

Yes it's just a regular A-B type USB cable

KKnight59 Just a floor pan for my gt Omega prime aluminum profile rig

Reed•5/17/23, 9:25 PM

Is the rhino making contact with that at all? My plan is to do something similar and just mount the rhino to the floor play unless I can find a better way to mount to my rig.

Reed•5/17/23, 9:25 PM

It looks like I’ll have plenty of options for mounting just finding the one that will work the best for my solution

RReed Is the rhino making contact with that at all? My plan is to do something similar...

Knight59•5/17/23, 9:26 PM

Yea it's basically resting on it. I've got some fabric between the plate and the rhino base to stop any rattle

Reed•5/17/23, 9:26 PM

JJon (Bounty_V)Vkb is 1:1 based directly on heatblur tomcat, Virpil is its own thing. Vkb woul...

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 10:25 PM

Dont forget the SP/PN has no depress, all that means is switching between Sparrow and Phoenix

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 10:26 PM

*no switching

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 10:27 PM

which one of those?

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 10:27 PM

The vkb

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 10:27 PM

Ah rip

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 10:28 PM

Heatblur fucked up and didn’t inform them

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 10:28 PM

Or so I am told

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 10:33 PM

Interesting

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/17/23, 10:59 PM

I'm seriously considering upgrading from my MCG Pro to an Ultimate later this year, and I am very keen on the upcoming AH-64 collective from Virpil

Dddrake1984 Dont forget the SP/PN has no depress, all that means is switching between Sparro...

Scotia•5/17/23, 11:23 PM

Ooof, puts the VIRPIL in the lead for sure, then

SScotia Ooof, puts the VIRPIL in the lead for sure, then

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 11:24 PM

As long as your not too worried about the physical model

ddrake1984•5/17/23, 11:24 PM

shape

Scotia•5/17/23, 11:32 PM

Just watched a review video.

It's missing the depress for SW for swapping which sidewinder is qued. It does have the SP/PN push button

Scotia•5/17/23, 11:44 PM

Just disappointing there isn't a metal tomcat grip. Love my winwing F-18 grip

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 12:05 AM

Isn't the F-14, but Virpil do have an F-4 grip (which wasn't the only aircraft to use it)

https://virpil-controls.us.com/vpc-warbrd-grip.html

VPC WarBRD Grip

★ Perfect Match for the VPC WarBRD Base
★ Programmable LED Lighting
★ Available with Optional Lockable All-Metal Twist Axis Mechanism, or with a Fixed Grip Stock
★ Compatible with all VPC Bases
★ 10% Discount When Purchased with VPC Base (applied at checkout)

JJon (Bounty_V)I'm seriously considering upgrading from my MCG Pro to an Ultimate later this ye...

Naudiz•5/18/23, 12:32 AM

I’ll give an absolute S++ rating for the MCGU, best grip I’ve owned by so much that it isn’t even funny

Naudiz•5/18/23, 12:33 AM

Only trouble I’ve had is that on an extension, it’s heavy enough to actually cause some problems with centering on the VKB base

Naudiz•5/18/23, 12:33 AM

I doubt that would be of any concern at all on the Rhino

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 12:34 AM

At least 1 Rhino Owner is using the MCGU+200mm

Naudiz•5/18/23, 12:35 AM

Yeah I mean even the springs on the VKB base handle it fine, you just have to be at the top end of what they recommend

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 12:35 AM

I still need to get an extension for my MCGP, I'd save some $50-60+ on shipping by getting MCGU in same order vs getting them separately

SScotia Just watched a review video. It's missing the depress for SW for swapping which...

ddrake1984•5/18/23, 2:58 AM

ah seems I got the wrong depress switch, don't have one in hand to check atm

SScotia wish i could see what the box uses to connect to the pc, might be able to use my...

PiNKSH!T•5/18/23, 8:31 AM

VKB BlackBox uses the same cable as printers do going to the PC. I think it's called USB-B. All the cables needed should come included in the VKB BB, as Jon stated above the VPforce VKB adapter comes with the cables to go to the BB, then the USB-B from BB to PC.

VPforceBot•5/18/23, 9:45 AM

:package:

RHINO #0102 Has Shipped!

Dddrake1984 Dont forget the SP/PN has no depress, all that means is switching between Sparro...

Jaeger•5/18/23, 3:53 PM

That's not correct. Phoenix Sparrow depress works. The depress missing is for SW station changing. It is kind of easy DIY fixable. Done it, but have yet to use it

Scotia•5/18/23, 4:10 PM

I'm most likely going to purchase the VKB F-14 grip thanks to your inputs!

Scotia•5/18/23, 4:12 PM

Appreciate the feedback!

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 4:33 PM

https://stormbirds.blog/2023/05/18/combat-pilot-a-new-pacific-wwii-sim-coming-from-jason-williams-and-barbedwire-studios/

StormbirdsShamrockOneFive

COMBAT PILOT: A new Pacific WWII sim coming from Jason Williams and...

It has become something of a holy grail for PC combat flight sim enthusiasts. An authentic and highly detailed recreation of the air battles fought in the Pacific during World War II. Not since Pac…

amadeus•5/18/23, 5:08 PM

Innnteresting!

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 5:10 PM

I've already requested FFB support. VR is confirmed.

amadeus•5/18/23, 5:29 PM

just need to crowd fund a rhino for jason and we'll be set

JJon (Bounty_V)If you do go VKB route VKB has something Virpil doesn't https://www.vkbcontrol...

Will3D•5/18/23, 6:46 PM

Can vouch for this. It's what I use and love it. But it is quite tall.

Aamadeus just need to crowd fund a rhino for jason and we'll be set

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 7:39 PM

wait til walmis potentially works his magic with the MFG Crosswinds so we can have proper rudder feedback too

TTroll 🇸🇪 🇳🇴Is anybody using their Rhino with the Next Level Boeing flightsim cockpit? Inter...

mork•5/18/23, 8:17 PM

In the market for a better home cockpit setup myself and was wondering the same. A review I saw mentioned the center mount didn't go low enough to use an extension with their non-ffb stick.

JJaeger That's not correct. Phoenix Sparrow depress works. The depress missing is for SW...

ddrake1984•5/18/23, 10:07 PM

Yeah, I got the wrong switch in my mind, what diy did you end up doing?

JJon (Bounty_V)https://stormbirds.blog/2023/05/18/combat-pilot-a-new-pacific-wwii-sim-coming-fr...

ddrake1984•5/18/23, 10:10 PM

My only issue with this is that it waters down the player base

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 10:11 PM

wdym?

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 10:13 PM

Do you mean splits the playerbase of existing games?

ddrake1984•5/18/23, 10:14 PM

Yeah

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 10:23 PM

As a predominantly offline/single player flight simmer so far, I'm really looking forward to it, especially if they can offer a dynamic campaign of some sort.

In regards to player bases, I think its up to existing games/communities to retain player count. If DCS WW2 for example wants to keep people interested, ED should finally release the tools necessary to do a better job of running servers.

Any new game will always have a lot of people at launch very interested in checking it out. It takes a long time to build up communities for retaining player count. DCS WW2/IL2 Great Battles MP communities weren't built overnight, and I doubt they'll disappear overnight either.

Really just depends on how good of a job the devs do with Combat Pilot and how multiplayer works. So far it sounds like they're definitely open to discussion with the community, so in a perfect world ideal scenario is community gets access to all tools they'd ever need to properly run servers.

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 10:25 PM

another potential big factor, is groups that used to run servers in either game, and them potentially expressing interest in running servers in Combat Pilot.

So even without a 'loss' to existing communities or player bases, we could potentially see a solid community server established in Combat Pilot, if it gives players who are burned out on what is currently available something fresh and exciting to dip their toes into.

Jon (Bounty_V)OP•5/18/23, 10:26 PM

Regardless, they are absolutely spot on about the current state of flight sim, and the absence of PTO, and providing something else for players to enjoy is a very welcome notion.

If you do go VKB route VKB has something Virpil doesn't https://www.vkbcontrollers.com/products/mc

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