just need to crowd fund a rhino for jason and we'll be set
just need to crowd fund a rhino for jason and we'll be set
WCan vouch for this. It's what I use and love it. But it is quite tall.
Jwait til walmis potentially works his magic with the MFG Crosswinds so we can have proper rudder feedback too 
MIn the market for a better home cockpit setup myself and was wondering the same. A review I saw mentioned the center mount didn't go low enough to use an extension with their non-ffb stick.
DYeah, I got the wrong switch in my mind, what diy did you end up doing?
DMy only issue with this is that it waters down the player base
Jwdym?
JDo you mean splits the playerbase of existing games?
DYeah
JAs a predominantly offline/single player flight simmer so far, I'm really looking forward to it, especially if they can offer a dynamic campaign of some sort.
In regards to player bases, I think its up to existing games/communities to retain player count. If DCS WW2 for example wants to keep people interested, ED should finally release the tools necessary to do a better job of running servers.
Any new game will always have a lot of people at launch very interested in checking it out. It takes a long time to build up communities for retaining player count. DCS WW2/IL2 Great Battles MP communities weren't built overnight, and I doubt they'll disappear overnight either.
Really just depends on how good of a job the devs do with Combat Pilot and how multiplayer works. So far it sounds like they're definitely open to discussion with the community, so in a perfect world ideal scenario is community gets access to all tools they'd ever need to properly run servers.
In regards to player bases, I think its up to existing games/communities to retain player count. If DCS WW2 for example wants to keep people interested, ED should finally release the tools necessary to do a better job of running servers.
Any new game will always have a lot of people at launch very interested in checking it out. It takes a long time to build up communities for retaining player count. DCS WW2/IL2 Great Battles MP communities weren't built overnight, and I doubt they'll disappear overnight either.
Really just depends on how good of a job the devs do with Combat Pilot and how multiplayer works. So far it sounds like they're definitely open to discussion with the community, so in a perfect world ideal scenario is community gets access to all tools they'd ever need to properly run servers.
Janother potential big factor, is groups that used to run servers in either game, and them potentially expressing interest in running servers in Combat Pilot.
So even without a 'loss' to existing communities or player bases, we could potentially see a solid community server established in Combat Pilot, if it gives players who are burned out on what is currently available something fresh and exciting to dip their toes into.
So even without a 'loss' to existing communities or player bases, we could potentially see a solid community server established in Combat Pilot, if it gives players who are burned out on what is currently available something fresh and exciting to dip their toes into.
JRegardless, they are absolutely spot on about the current state of flight sim, and the absence of PTO, and providing something else for players to enjoy is a very welcome notion.
JI do think there is so much we as the flight sim community could do for the state of Combat Pilot now by providing suggestions and our opinions and what we actually want out of the game, particularly for multiplayer.
It sounds like it is such early days in development, that it is the PERFECT time to talk about what to add that would require a lot of stuff to put it into the game (as in, easier to just hard code into it now, vs try to do decades later like ED does with DCS)
It sounds like it is such early days in development, that it is the PERFECT time to talk about what to add that would require a lot of stuff to put it into the game (as in, easier to just hard code into it now, vs try to do decades later like ED does with DCS)
DCommunity suggestions and feedback should only go so far, otherwise you get a game like Star Citizen
JOf course. It is ultimately their game and their vision. But if there are fundamental things from a technical aspect that would make maintaining a community much easier, definitely worth letting them know 
Ai think in the long run competition is good though
SI feel like Chris Roberts is more at fault than the community on that one.
V:package: 
RHINO #0094 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0094 Has Shipped!V:package: 
RHINO #0101 Has Shipped!
RHINO #0101 Has Shipped!
JJHello everyone! We are SPQR, and are hosting our new DCS server running the Engima's Cold War code but for modern jets and helicopters.
We are moving out of our beta testing period and launching the production version of the mission tonight and we would like to welcome everyone to come fly and try out the server!
We are moving out of our beta testing period and launching the production version of the mission tonight and we would like to welcome everyone to come fly and try out the server!
JThat's pretty cool
JI'll definitely check it out in the future once I've got my setup up and running (~August-September)
C#status
CLol what’s the thing again
VPlease provide me your email address you used for preordering, for example: !info email@domain.xyz
Jthat works too kekw
JDM the bot that command lol
M389 to go......
MProbably got time to knock the wife up and her give birth before mines ready? Asking for a friend,lol
MI'll name my next baby Walmis if my rhino comes before the baby.
Gstill in doubt between MCGU and Winwing Orion 2, which one do you guys think it's better?
JI can't speak for Winwing at all, but I can say the MCGU has been tried and tested and proven to be solid, as it has been around for some years now. Orion 2 came out fairly recently iirc.
PI think technically the WW F-16EX has more HATs or button inputs if you have the extension pack thing on it, like Jon I don't own the WW I have the MCGU on a 200mm curved extension, tbh that's probably the heaviest I'd go with a 200mm extension on the Rhino as the weight of the mcgu does give a fair bit of leverage, I use the vkb Kg12v2 grip for warbirds & ga flying & it feels better for those, the mcgu I use for heli's & anything more modern than warbirds, don't get me wrong it feels awesome on the Rhino I usually only have the spring force low when flying modern aircraft & it's still enough, I just personally wouldn't want heavier than the mcgu.
NCan’t speak on the WinWing at all either, I haven’t tried it. If the Orion is of equal super high quality, it would only come down to the ergonomics
GThat's great, you pretty much nailed the way I want to use . I'm also planning to use Rhino with a 200mm extension, I was inclined first to go for Virpil as I could later on 3d print some grips, such as the P-51 and KG12/13C, but personally I prefer a metal grip
Yare the VPforce feedback available now ?
Pcheck out the #
faq chanel m8. But yes the Rhino is available now to order, you'll get a Serial Number &go in the wait list, it's basically just Walmis powering through all of this alone, software, production etc. Your other option is to order a motor a electronics kit & DIY, there are heaps of resources getting around to help, all the ppl with green names are kit owners & red names are Rhino base owners fyi. The kits give you motor options to go upto ~24Nm torque, the Rhino base is 9Nm & that's already enough for most.
faq chanel m8. But yes the Rhino is available now to order, you'll get a Serial Number &go in the wait list, it's basically just Walmis powering through all of this alone, software, production etc. Your other option is to order a motor a electronics kit & DIY, there are heaps of resources getting around to help, all the ppl with green names are kit owners & red names are Rhino base owners fyi. The kits give you motor options to go upto ~24Nm torque, the Rhino base is 9Nm & that's already enough for most.PYou might find other options out there for diy kits, though I haven't seen any that offer the sort of software that Walmis/VPforce does. The vpforce telemetry app is awesome, it's only supporting DCS right now, but MSFS2020 is being worked on too, as msfs has no native ffb support & the current 3rd party options aren't great. Also walmis offers adapters for VKB (passthrough to VKB BlackBox) & Winwing, the Rhino supports Virpil & Thrustmaster too without adapters.
Yok thanks for the info ( i will wait for msfs support)
NYou may wanna put yourself on the list anyways, it’s a long wait
Acrowd sourcing a rhino for ED, 1c, Asobo, the X-Plane thing and Jason's new thing could be pretty useful
KWould do
MIs it bad to message !info @ force bot every couple hours to check status? Lol
MCan I pay double to get my rhino sooner?
BYou can probably buy out someone elses slot from them, doesn't hurt to ask, lol. I have like 100 left to go I think
Jif u dont see a brand new message from the bot here saying x order shipped, ur status aint gonna change
Jyour lead time is probably a year; if you're bored you can look back at each month to see how many shipped per month
MHonestly, I'm getting old and dont know how much time I have left so I'd totally buy out someone's spot in line for a reasonable fee.
BHi Knight, I have just installed my Butt Kicker Gamer Plus to my Mosntertech Helicopter Cockpit Simulator. Take a look as to how I installed mine and you and other members may have some ideas of their own.
Vit seems the Strike Eagle will surprisingly have ffb support
