would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window.Position = new Vect

would this be approved for merging into tutorial in

OnRender()

OnRender()

OnRender()

OnRender()

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

//_window.Position = new Vector2D<int>(Random.Shared.Next(0,1000), Random.Shared.Next(0,1000)); //HEHE FUNNY, WINDOW GOES BRRRRRRRRRRR

LLyris the Kitori probably want to put it in #help-and-questions

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:03 PM

not this one I guess

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:04 PM

Just for the pure chaos : >

LLasek would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window...

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

a bit blunt of an answer, but: no

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

perhaps that could be part of a separate tutorial series teaching all the functions of the windowing library (without the comment though)

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:05 PM

but not in the core OpenGL tutorials

LLyris the Kitori perhaps that could be part of a separate tutorial series teaching all the functi...

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

YOOO

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

xDDD

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

made my day

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

but im not going to write that, you'd have to write the whole set of tutorials

LLyris the Kitori but im not going to write that, you'd have to write the whole set of tutorials

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

hymmm, maybe one day

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:06 PM

once I'll know how at least some of the stuff works

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

this depth buffer thing does remind me that my library doesn't actually support setting the depth buffer at all

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

guess i should add that

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:08 PM

currently the library is just
if you don't want 24 bit RGB with 24 bit depth buffer then haha good luck

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

ill have to implement it in literally the worst way possible thanks to opengl being opengl but its better than nothing

AAqua currently the library is just if you don't want 24 bit RGB with 24 bit depth buf...

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

ahh yes, the funny one

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

my engine just doesnt support depth buffers :^)

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

FAIR

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

its unnessesary for 2d rendering anyway

LLyris the Kitori my engine just doesnt support depth buffers :^)

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

are you Patrick Bateman ???

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

yea my engine entirely renders to a separate framebuffer so i can just disable the default depth buffer

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

gez

LLyris the Kitori its unnessesary for 2d rendering anyway

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:09 PM

LLasek are you Patrick Bateman ???

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:10 PM

no im just practical and realized early on that a depth buffer only causes problems in 2d rendering

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:10 PM

now it does make some sense

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:10 PM

hym, what about overlaying planes ?

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:10 PM

or you simply don't allow it to happen

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:11 PM

you sort your geometry by depth on the CPU before you issue the draw call

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:11 PM

Hym

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:11 PM

Okey

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:12 PM

That does make sense in 2D then

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:12 PM

you also sometimes have to do the same in 3d in some ways

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:12 PM

transparent geometry when

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:12 PM

and opaque too

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

when drawing opaque you should sort from front to back

LLyris the Kitori you also sometimes have to do the same in 3d in some ways

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

Eeeeee okeey

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

you dont have to do that as much with only opaque if you properly have a depth buffer

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

yea its not essential

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

but sorting beforehand does help with z-fighting (sometimes)

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:13 PM

it just means the gpu doesnt try to render fragments that will never be visible

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

yeah for performance you should sort opaque front to back

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

and transparent back to front

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

although how much performance that gains over the cost of sorting on the cpu i have no idea

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

my solution for 3d rendering is to draw all my opaque geometry in one pass front to back, then all my transparent geometry after, back to front, should handle all cases

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

hymmmmmm okey, my conclusion is: computer graphics are hard

Lyris the Kitori•6/29/23, 10:14 PM

but not the most performant solution

Aqua•6/29/23, 10:15 PM

thats what i do as well

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:15 PM

(I know nothing new)

LasekOP•6/29/23, 10:15 PM

Anyway, thank you guys

would this be approved for merging into tutorial in `OnRender()` ``` //_window.Position = new Vect

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