Cloudflare Developers•3y ago

> nor did Cloudflare support websockets dang, that must have been quite some time ago

nor did Cloudflare support websockets

dang, that must have been quite some time ago

ErisaOP•7/5/23, 11:01 PM

blog says they were supported in 2014

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:02 PM

For our use-case we needed (and still need) connection to go to workers, but workers weren't a thing then. Now with durable objects it became possible to move it all to CF

EErisa > nor did Cloudflare support websockets dang, that must have been quite some tim...

dave•7/5/23, 11:04 PM

It was enterprise only, at least in June 2015 when I asked.

MMcSneaky For our use-case we needed (and still need) connection to go to workers, but wor...

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:06 PM

It's in dev plan, when we get to it is other thing..
Other thing in dev plan is getting really good deal from CF for 10b worker requests to run some AI models on the edge

ErisaOP•7/5/23, 11:08 PM

by my rough maths, 10 bil workers bundled reqs on paygo plan would be like $5,000 or so

dave•7/5/23, 11:09 PM

that's less than payroll for most folks (in the US anyway)

ErisaOP•7/5/23, 11:10 PM

indeed

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:12 PM

Most likely as enterprise customer we'd get off from there, but money is tight for business currently. Since market went interesting

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:12 PM

So it hasn't been priority

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:13 PM

I hope once we kill our own small bare-metal server farm, that keeps super legacy stuff running we can redirect that cash flow to fancy CF stuff

ErisaOP•7/5/23, 11:15 PM

I'm sure our sales team would love a chat when the time comes, if the paygo plan isnt enticing

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:16 PM

You have quite some good fellas in sales team
Can't remember the name of fella who was our sales contact. But he always got us real sweet deals
He also got us hooked in more cool stuff than we had time to implement

MMcSneaky It's in dev plan, when we get to it is other thing.. Other thing in dev plan is ...

dave•7/5/23, 11:16 PM

hopefully you're making money on those 10 billion requests?

Ddave hopefully you're making money on those 10 billion requests?

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:18 PM

We currently make money already based on them. So adding edge-ai on top of that would be just cost at the beginning, until we finish tuning our models
After that can sell it to clients as additional feature for extra cost

erichileman•7/5/23, 11:18 PM

Anyone know where the cloudlfare blog article / how to is for chatgpt, workers, and using kv for the vector db storage? It was an example loading in cf's own documentation. I could have sworn I read one a few weeks back but now can't find it...

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:18 PM

For how long it would be just a cost, is unknown. That's why business isn't too keen to jump that bandwagon yet + we are in eastern Europe. For that money you can get 2 devs in here

Eerichileman Anyone know where the cloudlfare blog article / how to is for chatgpt, workers, ...

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:20 PM

Hmm, someone at work shared similar article some time ago. Lemme see if can find it from history somewhere

Eerichileman Anyone know where the cloudlfare blog article / how to is for chatgpt, workers, ...

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:21 PM

https://blog.cloudflare.com/langchain-and-cloudflare/
That one?

The Cloudflare Blog

Using LangChainJS and Cloudflare Workers together

We are incredibly stoked that our friends at LangChain have announced LangChainJS Support for Cloudflare Workers! In this post we'll show you how to build a sample application.

MMcSneaky https://blog.cloudflare.com/langchain-and-cloudflare/ That one?

erichileman•7/5/23, 11:25 PM

Thank you, but I don't think it was that one. The one I'm thinking of was specifically loading cf's own knowledgebase in. This one is using a wikipedia article on Brooklyn.

Eerichileman Thank you, but I don't think it was that one. The one I'm thinking of was speci...

Chaika•7/5/23, 11:28 PM

I believe it was this one https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-chatgpt-plugins/

The Cloudflare Blog

Query Cloudflare Radar and our docs using ChatGPT plugins

We’re excited to share two new Cloudflare ChatGPT plugins – the Cloudflare Radar plugin and the Cloudflare Docs plugin

Chaika•7/5/23, 11:28 PM

the later half of that blog talks about the docs plugin using kv for vector store and embeddings

CChaika I believe it was this one https://blog.cloudflare.com/cloudflare-chatgpt-plugins...

erichileman•7/5/23, 11:30 PM

Yes! It's in the second half and that's why I was missing it. Thank you!!

MMcSneaky For how long it would be just a cost, is unknown. That's why business isn't too ...

dave•7/5/23, 11:41 PM

charge customers per requests, that scales nicely

Ddave charge customers per requests, that scales nicely

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:43 PM

Jup, that's what we do, charging per 1m requests

McSneaky•7/5/23, 11:44 PM

Just increasing that too much would not make customers too happy, unless we can pitch / prove additional value

Chaika•7/6/23, 12:32 AM

it's really not recommended to do so, it's in alpha, the new experimental backend does seem pretty stable, but there's no backups, "time travel" is planned but not available yet, etc

Unsmart•7/6/23, 12:34 AM

DynamoDB and D1 are very very different. A closer alternative on cloudflare is Durable Objects.

dave•7/6/23, 2:52 AM

How can I use a transform rule that only triggers if the location header is

https://*.trustedexample/*

https://*.trustedexample/*

Ppeshakoo hypothetically would my domains be forgotten

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:19 AM

Assuming you can, then most likely? I think it goes into a grace period, so you couldn't do this in one night. It would possibly take a month or longer. If you have domains registered through Cloudflare, it may require you to transfer them out to a different registrar before you can delete the account.

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:19 AM

May I ask why you're looking to do this? Perhaps there's an issue that needs addressed? Unless you're trying to delete something off the community or ban evade or something..?

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:22 AM

Is it bought through Cloudflare?

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:22 AM

Just turn off auto renew and let it expire

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:22 AM

How recently did it expire?

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:23 AM

It takes like a month or two afterwards (grace time) to be removed fully. You might be able to remove it early though like another domain.

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:24 AM

So if it's in grace time it's probably going to stay. After the renewal grace time, I think Cloudflare has its own additional grace time to be able to review previous configs and such if needed. You might be able to delete it during that grace time.

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:25 AM

Check again in a week and you'll have your answer. If you can, great. If not, just leave it sit for a bit. Doesn't hurt anything and would cause more issues trying to force it than anything. Not worth the struggle IMO.

NothingBad•7/6/23, 4:25 AM

is enterprise plan 3000$ per domain?

Dubz•7/6/23, 4:25 AM

As for the community name, you may be able to change it, or at least request it changed

> nor did Cloudflare support websockets dang, that must have been quite some time ago

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