Silk.NET•3y ago

new day, decided to carry on anyway and make a half-assed MVP of everything that I want to do

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:52 PM

but our users will definitely have to exercise a duty of care just as if they were using unsafe

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:52 PM

so basically like any of our safe wrappers today

PPerksey new day, decided to carry on anyway and make a half-assed MVP of everything that...

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:52 PM

and look! no

Free

Free

! I'm abusing

DependentHandle

DependentHandle

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:53 PM

DependentHandle

DependentHandle

is great

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:54 PM

can your thing be created from the new(ish) utf8 literals?

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:54 PM

yeah

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:54 PM

nice

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:54 PM

will defo say that writing the tests and trying to make it compile is a good way about it

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:55 PM

the idea on silk functions is any parameter where you have

ConstPtr<byte>

ConstPtr<byte>

you can pass

"Hello"

"Hello"

"Hello"u8

"Hello"u8

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:55 PM

implicit conversions nice

Kkhitiara will defo say that writing the tests and trying to make it compile is a good way...

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:55 PM

main reason is I'm doing IL weaving and wanted to make sure I'm not blowing up the runtime

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:55 PM

yeah checks out

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:55 PM

will this marshal in any reasonable way for struct fields?

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:56 PM

lotta vulkan structs i use have a combo of pointer and length fields and using something like this for that would be amazing

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:56 PM

i haven't given any thought to structs yet, we can use ref structs but that won't be very usable

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:57 PM

most likely scenario is having an unsafe (unsafe as in care needs to be taken, not unsafe as in

unsafe

unsafe

) variant of these types and just have an analyzer to help out

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:57 PM

mhm

PPerksey new day, decided to carry on anyway and make a half-assed MVP of everything that...

Maxine•8/2/23, 3:57 PM

that assert looks horrifying

Maxine•8/2/23, 3:57 PM

how does a constptr know it's a null terminated string

PPerksey most likely scenario is having an unsafe (unsafe as in care needs to be taken, n...

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:57 PM

but I won't be doing struct stuff for MVP

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

well in any case your MVP defo has my interest even without struct bits

MMaxine how does a constptr know it's a null terminated string

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

it makes an ass out of u and me

Maxine•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

that's why i ASKED, DYLAN

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

ive been abusing the hell out of pooled arraybuilders internally on my end to cover that case

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

did you not get my dad joke

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

ass out of u and me

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

assume

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

ass = u + me

khitiara•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

thats assume not assert smh

Maxine•8/2/23, 3:58 PM

i did

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:59 PM

good

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:59 PM

damn i don't have my jacksepticeye gif handy

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 3:59 PM

https://tenor.com/view/jacksepticeye-lovrothecoolest-laugh-jacksepticeyelaugh-gif-19786321

Tenor

Maxine•8/2/23, 3:59 PM

i may be stupid but if you create a constptr of something that is not a string and then compare it to one, what happens

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:00 PM

great question, i have no idea

khitiara•8/2/23, 4:00 PM

you gonna stick this mvp up on github somewhere? im interested to see it

Maxine•8/2/23, 4:00 PM

reading arbitrary memory until the next null byte sounds slightly unsafe

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:00 PM

it's what the BCL does

Maxine•8/2/23, 4:00 PM

and also possibly might lead you into an unreadable memory page

PPerksey it's what the BCL does

Maxine•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

yeah but the BCL knows it's a string because of type safety

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

the user has a duty of care to only use these when they're expecting a string

khitiara•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

yeah

khitiara•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

this is unsafe stuff for sure

Maxine•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

is a constptr meant to be a null terminated list

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:01 PM

no, it's just a pointer to T

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:02 PM

but just like in C, a byte*byte* can be treated as a string

PerkseyOP•8/2/23, 4:02 PM

(and friends)

khitiara•8/2/23, 4:02 PM

its a T*T* that doesnt need the unsafe keyword by the looks of it

Maxine•8/2/23, 4:02 PM

but with lifetime tracking

new day, decided to carry on anyway and make a half-assed MVP of everything that I want to do

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