i missed the meeting i was with my nephew is there anything you need my input on

MMaxine i missed the meeting i was with my nephew is there anything you need my input on

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:50 PM

don't think so, just went back and forth on the magical pointer type design. if you wanted to listen to the vod skip to 29:10 and watch on 2x speed

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:58 PM

yeah i think we're just going to have to change it so it's always a busy loop for the final 10%

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 9:59 PM

that's fine

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 9:59 PM

what kind of accuracy are you going for

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 9:59 PM

because it's not infinite, at a high enough framerate you have to not use a timer entirely

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:00 PM

also how does unity implement shit like FixedUpdate where the delta is guaranteed to always be the same

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

i mean that's only 50 FPS

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

probably not that hard an ask

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

if you change game speed it changes the update frequency

MMaxine also how does unity implement shit like FixedUpdate where the delta is guarantee...

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

beacuse its not guarenteed to always be the same, it just SAYS its always the same

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

yeah that way my thought beyley

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

all it guarentees is that over time it averages to some number per second

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

it could run slower temporarily, but then it will try to catch up later

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

but how does it fire? just a normal timer? does it measure delta time in the regular update loop?

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:02 PM

ok the latest

60 FPS = 55.7581434768548 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97720866070893 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97792812245093 FPS
60 FPS = 59.994840443721834 FPS
60 FPS = 59.995920277421135 FPS
120 FPS = 119.91270355181427 FPS
120 FPS = 119.9788837164659 FPS
120 FPS = 119.90695220508886 FPS
120 FPS = 119.94722322178241 FPS
120 FPS = 119.93427601674281 FPS
240 FPS = 239.80240282007622 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
240 FPS = 239.7334164409177 FPS
240 FPS = 235.98263167830845 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
480 FPS = 461.0844706750277 FPS
480 FPS = 479.75436576472845 FPS
480 FPS = 432.61951113995235 FPS
480 FPS = 478.97308171280775 FPS
480 FPS = 430.92303714556584 FPS
960 FPS = 686.5774116031583 FPS
960 FPS = 953.0162965786715 FPS
960 FPS = 959.048623765225 FPS
960 FPS = 947.6876421531463 FPS
960 FPS = 688.6578059362303 FPS
1920 FPS = 1876.8768768768766 FPS
1920 FPS = 1889.6447467876042 FPS
1920 FPS = 1886.7924528301887 FPS
1920 FPS = 1916.0758766047138 FPS
1920 FPS = 1875.8206715438005 FPS

60 FPS = 55.7581434768548 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97720866070893 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97792812245093 FPS
60 FPS = 59.994840443721834 FPS
60 FPS = 59.995920277421135 FPS
120 FPS = 119.91270355181427 FPS
120 FPS = 119.9788837164659 FPS
120 FPS = 119.90695220508886 FPS
120 FPS = 119.94722322178241 FPS
120 FPS = 119.93427601674281 FPS
240 FPS = 239.80240282007622 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
240 FPS = 239.7334164409177 FPS
240 FPS = 235.98263167830845 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
480 FPS = 461.0844706750277 FPS
480 FPS = 479.75436576472845 FPS
480 FPS = 432.61951113995235 FPS
480 FPS = 478.97308171280775 FPS
480 FPS = 430.92303714556584 FPS
960 FPS = 686.5774116031583 FPS
960 FPS = 953.0162965786715 FPS
960 FPS = 959.048623765225 FPS
960 FPS = 947.6876421531463 FPS
960 FPS = 688.6578059362303 FPS
1920 FPS = 1876.8768768768766 FPS
1920 FPS = 1889.6447467876042 FPS
1920 FPS = 1886.7924528301887 FPS
1920 FPS = 1916.0758766047138 FPS
1920 FPS = 1875.8206715438005 FPS

60 FPS = 55.7581434768548 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97720866070893 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97792812245093 FPS
60 FPS = 59.994840443721834 FPS
60 FPS = 59.995920277421135 FPS
120 FPS = 119.91270355181427 FPS
120 FPS = 119.9788837164659 FPS
120 FPS = 119.90695220508886 FPS
120 FPS = 119.94722322178241 FPS
120 FPS = 119.93427601674281 FPS
240 FPS = 239.80240282007622 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
240 FPS = 239.7334164409177 FPS
240 FPS = 235.98263167830845 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
480 FPS = 461.0844706750277 FPS
480 FPS = 479.75436576472845 FPS
480 FPS = 432.61951113995235 FPS
480 FPS = 478.97308171280775 FPS
480 FPS = 430.92303714556584 FPS
960 FPS = 686.5774116031583 FPS
960 FPS = 953.0162965786715 FPS
960 FPS = 959.048623765225 FPS
960 FPS = 947.6876421531463 FPS
960 FPS = 688.6578059362303 FPS
1920 FPS = 1876.8768768768766 FPS
1920 FPS = 1889.6447467876042 FPS
1920 FPS = 1886.7924528301887 FPS
1920 FPS = 1916.0758766047138 FPS
1920 FPS = 1875.8206715438005 FPS

60 FPS = 55.7581434768548 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97720866070893 FPS
60 FPS = 59.97792812245093 FPS
60 FPS = 59.994840443721834 FPS
60 FPS = 59.995920277421135 FPS
120 FPS = 119.91270355181427 FPS
120 FPS = 119.9788837164659 FPS
120 FPS = 119.90695220508886 FPS
120 FPS = 119.94722322178241 FPS
120 FPS = 119.93427601674281 FPS
240 FPS = 239.80240282007622 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
240 FPS = 239.7334164409177 FPS
240 FPS = 235.98263167830845 FPS
240 FPS = 239.93473775133162 FPS
480 FPS = 461.0844706750277 FPS
480 FPS = 479.75436576472845 FPS
480 FPS = 432.61951113995235 FPS
480 FPS = 478.97308171280775 FPS
480 FPS = 430.92303714556584 FPS
960 FPS = 686.5774116031583 FPS
960 FPS = 953.0162965786715 FPS
960 FPS = 959.048623765225 FPS
960 FPS = 947.6876421531463 FPS
960 FPS = 688.6578059362303 FPS
1920 FPS = 1876.8768768768766 FPS
1920 FPS = 1889.6447467876042 FPS
1920 FPS = 1886.7924528301887 FPS
1920 FPS = 1916.0758766047138 FPS
1920 FPS = 1875.8206715438005 FPS

MMaxine but how does it fire? just a normal timer? does it measure delta time in the reg...

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:02 PM

it could be done any number of ways

PPerksey ok the latest ``` 60 FPS = 55.7581434768548 FPS 60 FPS = 59.97720866070893 FPS 6...

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:02 PM

this number isn't all that helpful, if you wanna look at consistency you should plot a frametime graph

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

that way you can calculate errors and stddev and 99% and other mathematician words

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

anyway i'm off to bed, i'll push up SilkX as that should be laptop-friendly but I'm out of action for 2.X or any kind of beefy dev for the forseeable

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

fair

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

godspeed perks

MMaxine but how does it fire? just a normal timer? does it measure delta time in the reg...

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

https://github.com/Furball-Engine/Furball/blob/master/Furball.Engine/Engine/FixedTimeStepMethod.cs
heres how i do it in my engine for example

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MaxineOP•8/6/23, 10:03 PM

that makes sense, thank you!

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Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 10:04 PM

but there are many ways to implement it

LLyris the Kitori i still get reactions out of people with this phone keyboard

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Aqua•8/7/23, 10:23 AM

where did you get this keyboard from? I actually wanna try it
can't find it in gboard's available layouts tho

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Aqua•8/7/23, 10:23 AM

the JP 12 key has grown on me as I've learned to use it

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Lyris the Kitori•8/7/23, 10:24 AM

multilingual o keyboard

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Aqua•8/7/23, 10:24 AM

ty

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khitiara•8/7/23, 4:47 PM

@techpizza wait does vorbis really use a different polynomial? i remember digging deep and finding it was the same

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khitiara•8/7/23, 4:48 PM

i do believe you that vorbis uses big-endian and the dotnet one doesnt though

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khitiara•8/7/23, 4:48 PM

that sounds like a vorbis moment

Kkhitiara @techpizza wait does vorbis really use a different polynomial? i remember diggin...

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TechPizza•8/7/23, 4:52 PM

turns out it's the same polynomial but reversed for the bit-reflected algorithm

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khitiara•8/7/23, 4:52 PM

ok yeah thats what i thought

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jvyden•8/7/23, 10:57 PM

i love being in the silk.net discord because whenever im feeling smart i can come here to read about reversed polynomials for bit-reflected algorithms and deflate my ego right back where it needs to be

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Lyris the Kitori•8/7/23, 10:59 PM

lmao

Jjvyden i love being in the silk.net discord because whenever im feeling smart i can com...

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TechPizza•8/7/23, 11:03 PM

don't worry, i ended up porting assembly to c#

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TechPizza•8/7/23, 11:03 PM

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/854718511926083614/1138245655475802152/image.png

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TechPizza•8/7/23, 11:03 PM

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Lyris the Kitori•8/7/23, 11:14 PM

what the fuck

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TechPizza•8/7/23, 11:17 PM

intel writing code in C challenge [impossible]

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jvyden•8/7/23, 11:25 PM

"don't worry"
*proceeds to post the most worrying thing possible*

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Perksey•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

man cloning SilkX recursively (includes both original Silk.NET and terrafx.interop.windows as a submodule) on 4G is painful

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MaxineOP•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

why are all the native libs not in a submodule

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MaxineOP•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

i had to build silk buildtools locally and even though i wasn't compiling the entire project i had to pull in 600mb of stuff

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Lyris the Kitori•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

dont worry

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Lyris the Kitori•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

i have 50GB of Silk.NET clones

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Lyris the Kitori•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

averaging 7gb per clone

MMaxine i had to build silk buildtools locally and even though i wasn't compiling the en...

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MaxineOP•8/10/23, 7:12 AM

i hope those are on LFS

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Lyris the Kitori•8/10/23, 7:13 AM

no

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Lyris the Kitori•8/10/23, 7:13 AM

its commit STRAIGHT to the repo

i missed the meeting i was with my nephew is there anything you need my input on

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