we are fully aware

LLyris the Kitori we are fully aware

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chairclr•8/6/23, 9:53 PM

good

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 9:53 PM

infact thats like half the discussion

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:53 PM

also if you change this
https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/blob/hotfix/fidgity-spinny/src/Core/Silk.NET.Core/Miscellaneous/BreakneckSleep.cs#L168
to always be the FromMicroseconds branch and this https://github.com/dotnet/Silk.NET/blob/hotfix/fidgity-spinny/src/Core/Silk.NET.Core/Miscellaneous/BreakneckSleep.cs#L104
to always run it will be improved

Cchairclr windows actually has an api for this, called a WaitableTimer

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:53 PM

if you looked at the file you will see it's using that

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King•8/6/23, 9:53 PM

Nope, release mode didn't change anything

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Maxine•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

that's fair

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Maxine•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

disable tiered compilation

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King•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

500 lps results in between... I guess 330 and 400fps/ups

PPerksey if you looked at the file you will see it's using that

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chairclr•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

i tried

KKing Nope, release mode didn't change anything

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

try this help-and-questions

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chairclr•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

just loads forever, thanks gh

MMaxine disable tiered compilation

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Perksey•8/6/23, 9:54 PM

and good point none of these are aggropt

MMaxine disable tiered compilation

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King•8/6/23, 9:56 PM

That doesn't seem to have done anything. It's

<TieredCompilation>false</TieredCompilation>

<TieredCompilation>false</TieredCompilation>

<TieredCompilation>false</TieredCompilation>

<TieredCompilation>false</TieredCompilation> into the project file, right?

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Maxine•8/6/23, 9:57 PM

if i recall, yes

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King•8/6/23, 9:57 PM

Lemmie try rebuild

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Maxine•8/6/23, 9:57 PM

and then do what the smart man said

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King•8/6/23, 10:01 PM

aaaaa this stuff is too smart for me I feel like a 5th grader who accidentally walked into a university lol

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:04 PM

honestly when i came here i wasn't expecting anyone to like, listen to me

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:04 PM

i sorta just figure everyone already knows everything i know and when they don't it surprises me

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King•8/6/23, 10:05 PM

Alright so I changed

        var ft = CreateFileTime
        (
            //Accuracy == AccuracyMode.HighestResolution
            //    ? Duration
            //    : TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
            TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
        );

        var ft = CreateFileTime
        (
            //Accuracy == AccuracyMode.HighestResolution
            //    ? Duration
            //    : TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
            TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
        );

        var ft = CreateFileTime
        (
            //Accuracy == AccuracyMode.HighestResolution
            //    ? Duration
            //    : TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
            TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
        );

        var ft = CreateFileTime
        (
            //Accuracy == AccuracyMode.HighestResolution
            //    ? Duration
            //    : TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
            TimeSpan.FromMicroseconds(Duration.TotalMicroseconds * 0.9)
        );

and

        //if (Accuracy is AccuracyMode.HighResolutionWithBusyLoop or AccuracyMode.BusyLoopOnly || emergencySpin)'
        if (true)

        //if (Accuracy is AccuracyMode.HighResolutionWithBusyLoop or AccuracyMode.BusyLoopOnly || emergencySpin)'
        if (true)

        //if (Accuracy is AccuracyMode.HighResolutionWithBusyLoop or AccuracyMode.BusyLoopOnly || emergencySpin)'
        if (true)

        //if (Accuracy is AccuracyMode.HighResolutionWithBusyLoop or AccuracyMode.BusyLoopOnly || emergencySpin)'
        if (true)

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King•8/6/23, 10:05 PM

Or am I being an idiot?

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:05 PM

that should be it

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:05 PM

looks good to me

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Perksey•8/6/23, 10:06 PM

if you want more you can fiddle with lowering that 0.9 number but that will use more CPU

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King•8/6/23, 10:06 PM

Those changes doesn't seem to have done anything

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King•8/6/23, 10:06 PM

FPS/UPS is still a bit off from the specified value

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:06 PM

curious

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:07 PM

how much is it varying

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King•8/6/23, 10:07 PM

Doesn't look like anything at all

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King•8/6/23, 10:07 PM

Then again I'm a dumbass who didn't make a like... average FPS thing so everything is updating a billion times a second

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King•8/6/23, 10:07 PM

I probably should do that now

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:07 PM

yeah just look at the number and guess lmfao

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King•8/6/23, 10:08 PM

Me programming in a nutshell

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khitiara•8/6/23, 10:18 PM

could use the newish diagnostics.metrics apis to log it all and then do analysis with grafana or something when

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:18 PM

NEEEEERD i can't hear you over console.writeline

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khitiara•8/6/23, 10:18 PM

lmao

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King•8/6/23, 10:19 PM

ImGui.Text()

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King•8/6/23, 10:20 PM

Never had access to easy-mode GUI before, so now I"m abusing the hell out of it

KKing Never had access to easy-mode GUI before, so now I"m abusing the hell out of it

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:22 PM

ImGui also drops framerates by a fair amount :^)

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:23 PM

and BreakneckSleep doesnt actually account for extra time spent in the loop from what im reading

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:24 PM

so if anything takes any time in your loop, it will run too slow

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King•8/6/23, 10:24 PM

Alright now that I have a sensibly slow updating FPS counter lets see...

With all the fixes to breaknecksleep:
500 requested - Getting 335 - 358 FPS/UPS

Without the fixes:
500 requested - Getting overall 335 with changes differing from fractions to +- 2fps/ups

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King•8/6/23, 10:25 PM

So it seems using the original stuff is less "bouncy" in terms of stably staying at a certain FPS/UPS rate, but still lower than the requested number

LLyris the Kitori so if *anything* takes any time in your loop, it will run too slow

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:25 PM

its likely because of this

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King•8/6/23, 10:26 PM

Ah yeah... I am doing lots of fucky things with string.format and using a queue for averaging of FPS

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:27 PM

its not a queue problem, its a "you are doing anything at all" problem, and perksey's BreakneckSleep doesnt account for extra time already spent

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khitiara•8/6/23, 10:27 PM

yeah it needs a bit of tweaking there

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:27 PM

https://github.com/ppy/osu-framework/blob/master/osu.Framework/Timing/ThrottledFrameClock.cs

osu!framework has code to handle this better

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Maxine•8/6/23, 10:29 PM

isn't osu xna

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Lyris the KitoriOP•8/6/23, 10:30 PM

that hasnt been the case since like

we are fully aware

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