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this shit is absolutely insane
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T
TechPizza
jokes on you, i'm doing that too
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:33 PM
lmk when you finish in 2028
T
TechPizza
•
8/6/23, 11:33 PM
it
's already been a prototype in 2021
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:33 PM
all of the minecraft c
# clients are like
"oh there
's no server and no AI and no damage and no entities
"
A
Aqua
<https://github.com/ConcreteMC/Alex> this shit is absolutely insane
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
there was another one written in java at some point
, dont remember the name
A
Aqua
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
but that
's java
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
why rewrite a java game in java
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
who would do this
A
Aqua
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
exactly
M
Maxine
why rewrite a java game in java
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
to make an open source version
M
Maxine
all of the minecraft c# clients are like "oh there's no server and no AI and no ...
T
TechPizza
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
yeah because why reintroduce the logic when you already got a server
M
Maxine
why rewrite a java game in java
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
Can
't be worse than what mojang pooped out tbh
L
Lyris the Kitori
to make an open source version
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
to make it open source presumably using non clean room reverse engineering
T
TechPizza
•
8/6/23, 11:34 PM
although in my case there will be no server
, only a singleplayer simulation
M
Maxine
to make it open source presumably using non clean room reverse engineering
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
you do know the modern deobfuscation maps are released under a decently permissive license
right
?
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
but you can
't look at decompiled code
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
that
's not clean room
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
that
's illegal
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
But yeah at that point just rewrite the protocol and server too so people can actually host servers on xeons and not have 99
% of the cores go unused
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
yeah the protocol sucks ass
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
nbt sucks ass
M
Maxine
nbt sucks ass
T
TechPizza
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
not really
K
King
But yeah at that point just rewrite the protocol and server too so people can ac...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
yea people have done exactly that
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
in C
# too
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:35 PM
obsidian it was called i think
?
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
my friend made that
M
Maxine
nbt sucks ass
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
nbt is fine
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
it
's the same protocol though
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
protocol is fine
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
it
's a server reimplementation
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
https://github.com/ObsidianMC/Obsidian
GitHub
GitHub - ObsidianMC/Obsidian: A C# implementation of the Minecraft ...
A C
# implementation of the Minecraft server protocol
.
- GitHub
- ObsidianMC
/Obsidian
: A C
# implementation of the Minecraft server protocol
.
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
Now we just need to add mod support or compatibility via some kind of java voodoo
, and we can live happily ever after
K
King
Now we just need to add mod support or compatibility via some kind of java voodo...
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:36 PM
IKVM
:
^
)
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
the bukkit api is basically isolated from minecraft
's actual internals
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
still up on GitHub too
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
what is
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
Bukkits API
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
yeah it
's not illegal
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:37 PM
they made some weird deal with mojang
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
So CraftBukkit is illegal
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
but regular Bukkit isn
’t
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
craftbukkit nowadays works the same way forge mdk does
, decompiles your server and patches it
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
but regular Bukkit is just an API contract and isn
’t an implementation
K
King
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
I hate that like
.
.
. everything involving minecraft and modding is weirdly illegal in some way
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
modding is on a super thin strand of legality
A
Aqua
OP
•
8/6/23, 11:38 PM
why does minecraft have like 100 different mod managers
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:39 PM
drama
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:39 PM
and legacy reasons
L
Lyris the Kitori
•
8/6/23, 11:39 PM
the minecraft modding community is a complete and utter disaster in every conceivable way
M
Maxine
•
8/6/23, 11:39 PM
bukkit came before forge
P
Perksey
•
8/6/23, 11:39 PM
it wasn
’t illegal until some major contributor didn
’t know that Mojang bought the entire Bukkit team out and they subsequently decided to pull the rights to their code
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