> and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand what goes on with uns

and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand what goes on with unsigned, what unsigned arithmetic is. Things like that made C complex. The language part of Java is, I think, pretty simple.

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137860422863704085/image.png

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

ah yes the "the programmer is stupid" logic i see

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

absolute clusterfuck of fake generics

AAqua > and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand w...

King•8/6/23, 11:49 PM

AAqua > and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand w...

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

unsigned arithmatic in C is a huge clusterfuck
but thats because arithmatic in C is a huge clusterfuck in general

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

random implicit type widening

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

yeah true

Lyris the Kitori•8/6/23, 11:50 PM

widening when you really dont want it to

TTechPizza https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/809105216985235528/1137860422863704085/...

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

Also don't forget the factories

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

And beans

King•8/6/23, 11:51 PM

And beanfactories

King•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

I wanted to contribute to a java open source project, but everything was just.... factories up down left right and center

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

but the test mocking!

King•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

Couldn't make sense of half the stuff because everything was factories piping into factories

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:52 PM

the worst part is how people port C to Java to C#

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

and instead of using any pointers and unsigned from C, they go OOP all over the place

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

NVorbis is such a big offender

khitiara•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

gods yeah

khitiara•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

nvorbis is so bad

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:53 PM

made even the smallest data packet an interface

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

took me months to make it allocationless

khitiara•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

one of my many random unfinished projects is my own vorbis library because its so bad

TTechPizza took me months to make it allocationless

khitiara•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

would be interested in your work if its public

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

why is it that maui graphics has to make EVERY COLOR a class

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

that's a rhetorical question i know WHY

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:54 PM

i just don't LIKE IT

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

Red red = new Red()Red red = new Red() sorta shit?

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

no not that

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

shame

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

i highlighted it poorly

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

i meant Color is a class not a struct

Kkhitiara would be interested in your work if its public

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

https://github.com/TechPizzaDev/VorbisPizza

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

it's close to ffmpeg decode speed

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:55 PM

it's also a class in skia but that's because skcolor is tracking a native type

TTechPizza <https://github.com/TechPizzaDev/VorbisPizza>

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:56 PM

get starred bitch

TTechPizza <https://github.com/TechPizzaDev/VorbisPizza>

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:56 PM

how does this compare to smth like stbvorbis?

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:57 PM

personally i haven't found anything better than stbvorbis

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:57 PM

stbvorbis is quite bad

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:57 PM

and not manually vectorized

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:57 PM

hmmMMM?

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:57 PM

there's some .net libraries that are just incomprehensibly poorly coded

TTechPizza and not manually vectorized

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:58 PM

hmm, i wasn't really considering speed, although i've never really had any speed issues with stb vorbis
more from a feature point of view, i remember you saying to me ages ago that stb vorbis was missing a bunch of features but i don't remember what

TechPizza•8/6/23, 11:58 PM

stbvorbis has broken seeking (because it relies on the format) and cannot consume forward-only streams

Maxine•8/6/23, 11:58 PM

where it's like, this person is very skilled, they just chose to do it like this

TTechPizza stbvorbis has broken seeking (because it relies on the format) and cannot consum...

AquaOP•8/6/23, 11:59 PM

ah
right
yeah i can see that being a problem then (idk what forward only is, never had any issues playing vorbis files but)
seeking definitely is an issue

TechPizza•8/7/23, 12:00 AM

non-seekable streams

AquaOP•8/7/23, 12:00 AM

eeesh

TechPizza•8/7/23, 12:00 AM

not important, but hey, VorbisPizza does those easily

TechPizza•8/7/23, 12:01 AM

i even support seeking over non-seekable streams by buffering them up (but not needing to buffer the whole file)

AquaOP•8/7/23, 12:02 AM

i support seeking by decompressing to a single pcm buffer when

> and pretty soon you discover that almost no C developers actually understand what goes on with uns

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