Can t3 app be deployed on a traditional server and a tradition database?

I kind of fear being locked into these solutions like planelscale, vercel, clerk etc. So, in case if I am not satisfied with my applications with these services, can I just simply move out?

Or do I have to create the whole thing from the start again.

please forgive me for my dumbness theowat

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:55 AM

@adityaj21 But can I just simply deploy it with a tradition server and database?

aditya•8/16/23, 8:55 AM

yup can always move out

aditya•8/16/23, 8:56 AM

change clerk with next auth

aditya•8/16/23, 8:56 AM

db with you choice

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:57 AM

And what if I don't want to use serverless and co.

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:57 AM

Can I just deploy it on a beatup vm I buy from hetzner?

SSawaid Can I just deploy it on a beatup vm I buy from hetzner?

aditya•8/16/23, 8:58 AM

i dont know about this never tried it actually

aditya•8/16/23, 8:58 AM

but normal express server will work just fine with next

Aaditya but normal express server will work just fine with next

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:59 AM

But that means you have to create new backend. no?

aditya•8/16/23, 8:59 AM

yeah you have to

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:59 AM

Is serverless and edge the same?

Aaditya yeah you have to

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:59 AM

Got it.

aditya•8/16/23, 8:59 AM

next gives us the api endpoints so you dont have to create a server

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:00 AM

This JS space goes way above my head. xD

aditya•8/16/23, 9:01 AM

it goes over mine too xD

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:02 AM

How long did it takes to master t3 app?

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:02 AM

And is it fast to work with?

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:02 AM

And is it performant as well?

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:02 AM

JS is scary coming from c#.

aditya•8/16/23, 9:04 AM

creating stuff is super fast as everything is setup v nicely

aditya•8/16/23, 9:05 AM

just have to understand some trpc way of writing apis and prisma schema

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:08 AM

And how does prisma performs?

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:08 AM

Is it fast? I have heard some bad stuff.

aditya•8/16/23, 9:21 AM

for me prisma is okay

aditya•8/16/23, 9:21 AM

for large scale apps idk

aditya•8/16/23, 9:21 AM

you can use drizzle

SSawaid Is serverless and edge the same?

steakfisher•8/16/23, 12:00 PM

serverless and edge is basically the same
Both simplify requests to an extent where they provide u with a req and res object and u can work with it within the function
The difference is serverless uses the node runtime (which provides u with all the node apis)
But edge, for the sake of performance omits a couple of the node apis (like the crypto module), hence not ALL npm modules work on the edge

steakfisher•8/16/23, 12:03 PM

u CAN move out of those services, vendor lock in doesnt mean u CANT move out, just means it becomes a pain in the ass in ORDER to move out
in case of vercel, I strongly believe they dont do vendor lock-in in the traditional definition of the word.
AWS, GCP etc are just cloud providers and they make it VERY hard to change from one to another
But vercel is basically just a layer on TOP of AWS which SIMPLIFIES AWS, so by DEFINITION building apps on AWS is harder than building them on vercel, so people just tend to use vercel

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 12:57 PM

Damn. Thank for the detailed answer.

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 12:58 PM

I was just worried if in case I don't want to use them anymore and the price doesn't justify it, how hard will it be for me to just spin a VM and throw Next.JS there?

Aaditya yeah you have to

barry•8/16/23, 1:00 PM

what

barry•8/16/23, 1:00 PM

no you dont

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 1:03 PM

Btw, what is your position with setting up TRPC or any API calls within React Query?

SSawaid Btw, what is your position with setting up TRPC or any API calls within React Qu...

barry•8/16/23, 2:50 PM

wdym

SSawaid I was just worried if in case I don't want to use them anymore and the price doe...

steakfisher•8/16/23, 3:16 PM

COMPARED to vercel VERY hard.. because the entire selling point of vercel is "simplifying website deployment" so vercel abstracts away a lot of the complex shit during hosting for u
what Im tryna say is.. going from vercel to AWS is just as hard as hosting on AWS directly.. there is minimal to no EXTRA difficulty

steakfisher•8/16/23, 3:18 PM

Any project u deply on vercel runs on AWS servers.. so y do people choose vercel? cuz its wayy simpler than AWS (primary selling point)

barry•8/16/23, 3:18 PM

im sure someone can help you out

barry•8/16/23, 3:18 PM

a lot of people have copy pasta scripts to ssh in and deploy

Bbarry wdym

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:41 PM

I mean using React Query for state management.

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 8:41 PM

I don't know what approach does t3-app uses.

SSawaid I don't know what approach does t3-app uses.

barry•8/16/23, 9:06 PM

The tRPC client is a react query implementation

Bbarry The tRPC client is a react query implementation

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:07 PM

I don't get it. Does it use the TanStack React Query?

SSawaid I don't get it. Does it use the TanStack React Query?

barry•8/16/23, 9:08 PM

Yes

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:08 PM

Will I be able to implement optimistic UI updates with it?

barry•8/16/23, 9:09 PM

api.router.route.useQuery()

api.router.route.useQuery()

api.router.otherRoute.useMutation()

api.router.otherRoute.useMutation()

Just very clear what route you’re hitting

SSawaid Will I be able to implement optimistic UI updates with it?

barry•8/16/23, 9:09 PM

Yup

SawaidOP•8/16/23, 9:09 PM

Can you give me a rough example?

barry•8/16/23, 9:09 PM

Same way as normal react query

barry•8/16/23, 9:10 PM

You just don’t need a queryFn / query function

barry•8/16/23, 9:10 PM

As it’s part of the tRPC client that wraps react query

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