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mfad15mo ago
kalvin

How's everyone finding MFA discord compared to MFA reddit?

I find people or previous lurkers (such as myself) are a little more active now. But I do kinda miss curated-"ish" inspo albums and top of WAYWT from MFA. I used to just browse MFA every month, sort by upvotes and check out the top inspo album threads.
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raisinpie
raisinpie15mo ago
i also like how discord is encouraging a lot more people to contribute! I agree it's not as good for bigger content like essays, guides and inspo albums. It also moves way faster than reddit. Discord is better for people starting out imo, because you learn faster trying stuff and bricking fits as opposed to reading a dozen slightly out of date guides.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
We’re working on improving highlighting stuff like that, making a top of waywt and better ways to surface high effort content, if you all have thoughts on this feel free to let us know here
tim
tim15mo ago
It’s easier for me to find stuff on Reddit so I’d usually just search and lurk but here it’s easier to just ask. Hopefully I’m not bothering people 😅
chrishtatu
chrishtatu15mo ago
I find it difficult to keep track of threads without spending a long time reading from the very top. It can be a bit cumbersome dropping in on the middle of a topic then trying to trace back replies / the origins. (I understand the highlights is a potential solution that streamlines content and aides in this problem). Besides that very chill, haven't taken any fit pics recently so not participating in WAYWT/outfit-feedback, but I like how the replies are modulated.
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
True. I feel like good or high effort posts and fit pics get buried in the threads. But I find it easier here to actually get advice on my own fits I didn't like the daily questions thread on reddit before maybe we can have an inspiration-highlights thing as well. Not quite sure how to implement it because sometimes the number of reactions dont always correlate with the high-effortness I used to love when a metcarfe inspo album comes out
TheRealBinky
TheRealBinky15mo ago
This is my only gripe. Reddit’s message board/forum format of nested comment chains is so much more user friendly than a free flow of replies
Spuck
Spuck15mo ago
Discord is far better, the upvote system in reddit is shit
rej
rej15mo ago
The community in the discord is much more active, vibrant, and social. Q&A's and Feedback channels are much more active and more in depth. Conversations are varied and encourage people to jump in. Barrier to entry for posting feels much smaller overall Inability to silently downvote posts is a major plus
illisson
illisson15mo ago
I'm much less active in discord than Reddit because the convos here move so fast. (Not that I was a major participant on Reddit, but you know.) It's difficult for me to keep up without the nesting comments, and it feels less possible for me to join here with so many more people talking at once. Also, fewer people here are asking "Where I can find this exact X" questions here, which were my main source of contribution. That probably says something positive about the group of question-askers and the overall quality of questions we've been getting here on discord! But even if I haven't felt able to participate, I've really been enjoying all the lively convos and the general atmosphere here.
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
One thing I don't really like about the discord is when browsing pics. There isn't like a global gallery So when you browse waywt, you can't just keep swiping left. But need to exit each photo and move on to the next
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Yeah, still better than viewing on Reddit though
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
yup definitely. Was using apollo which helped a lot. But overall happy with the move to discord
Spuck
Spuck15mo ago
RIP actually good discord apps
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
probably my biggest dislike about discord is that it's essentialy a fully closed off system, whereas reddit is also open to non-members. especially with google having become somewhat unusuable to find non-sponsored posts, etc. for specifc questions. reddit serves as a kind of repository, which makes a better than discord imo.
rej
rej15mo ago
@briquebrutale would recommend spending a little more time here before you come to this conclusion. A lot of information is contained in the substack and we've reached a milestone to qualify for discord discover which would make this community accessible via Google
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
We also have some channels automatically archived to answers overflow so they can be searched from google without joining, we understand it’s not as open as Reddit but we’re happy with the upsides and trying to address the trade offs
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
@rej I'm familiar with the substack, and I think it's a great decision to archive old reddit threads so as not to rely solely on one company's infrastructure; I also know the reasons for moving away from reddit, which I can understand. However, say you're interested in a balmacaan coat / or an ocbd, that discord channel won't show up in your google results; that's what I mean by accessibility. This is not a criticism of that channel, but of discord in general.
rej
rej15mo ago
What I'm telling you is that we are working on exactly that functionality
cathode ray jepsen
Discord is way better for WAYWT and general chatting which is all I used MFA for. The format also makes way more sense for one-off questions.
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
That’s what the answer overflow is for, the SEO won’t be as good as Reddit but it’s searchable
cathode ray jepsen
Also I ain’t using the Reddit app and I basically only use my phone for social media so it’s this or nothing
rej
rej15mo ago
I exclusively used the default Reddit app so I'm mostly here cause the community is here
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
Yeah, I don't disagree with that. Every social network has its positives and negatives.
Gideo
Gideo15mo ago
Which third party app were you using before and how does it compare? gotcha, had the official reddit app well before the whole debacle only because i hated how links from browsers kept directing me to the app store. Didn’t like it and deleted it shortly after downloading
rej
rej15mo ago
starting anew here is nice because we dont get the bimonthly mass of 300 posters in one day who want to tell us all about how their hokas and vuori joggers are fashionable and objectively the best piece of clothing on the market and yet
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
We are happy with discord as a platform broadly, we want to address some things like discoverability but largely I think discord serves the community quite well I don’t think we want to recreate Reddit here
rej
rej15mo ago
To be completely honest, we've created a better format here. the only people with any woes with what we have here are folks that come in and have <10 total messages here
Gideo
Gideo15mo ago
To be on topic, I’ve never found myself to be engaged with any Reddit community the larger it gets. Lots of faceless individuals, little opportunity to interact with some of the posters in meaningful ways, and once I see “+42 more replies” I’m already moving on. It’s not a MFA problem, it’s really me using Reddit for over 10+ years and seeing comments that I’ve feel like I’ve seen 100x over had me consuming posts in a very shallow way. I still consider myself a rather newbie Discord user and I’ve found my experience here to be pleasant and engaging.
cathode ray jepsen
I have vastly preferred Discord as a WAYWT format to Reddit since long before this server was a thing
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Im not a super user either but the user interface of apollo and ease of use and ad free was a big plus for me
rej
rej15mo ago
have you scrolled the waywt channel? it's just a better experience
cathode ray jepsen
Less of a “contest” feel, it’s a more natural ui for browsing a series of images (Reddit didn’t even have the ability to post images natively until recently), having to join landrush of posts at WAYWT-o’clock or get buried was dumb, etc etc etc There’s nothing at all that’s better about WAYWT threads on Reddit
rej
rej15mo ago
thanks for informing me of your subjective opinion?
cathode ray jepsen
Sorting by Best/Hot was arguably an advantage, but even that is very minimally useful on WAYWT threads.
rej
rej15mo ago
you've been here 6 days. scroll through the channels, form your opinion. i've given mine, which you seem to disagree with - great all it really accomplished was springboarding the top 5-10 fits
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
In my case it was the main app being a fuss to use compared to apollo. I’ve been on apollo for ages and it was just a breeze. I can’t be arsed to go back to the original app
rej
rej15mo ago
having a recognized name in a community lends itself to getting more attention, yes.
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I like WAYWT on discord because lower barrier to entry and no downvotes
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Reddit WAYWT is like the College Football playoff. It suddenly becomes only about the top ~5-10 fits instead of the rich variety of college football bowl games. Discord is objectively better in that regard More eyes on more fits
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Ive been lurking MFA since 2018-2019 and only posted on WAYWT once it went on discord
cathode ray jepsen
Sort by top was kinda useful on r/malefashion to catch up on the bangers you might have missed if you were away for a month or w/e, but there was never anything comparable to that experience in WAYWT threads Top of the month posts I guess
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
I do miss the more focused discussions on longer-form content. I think #fashion-discussion threads just don't get much traffic
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I also found it easier to ask for outfit feedback I didn’t like the daily questions thread on the reddit layout But I think it works better here
rej
rej15mo ago
We've shown that without it the sub was not good either though lol
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Yeah definitely. The page just gets loaded with posts But it’s just inherent to the reddit layout
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Like not sure we'll really get another "How to Breathe" type post here
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
This is the primary thing I’m interested in improving as well
rej
rej15mo ago
Buddy I'm not even talking to you 😎
cathode ray jepsen
Effortposts as a rule didn’t get much engagement either as I recall but yeah, would be good to find a way to let the odd classic of long form float to the top
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
The big thing we’re trying to balance is visibility and clutter
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I’m not saying it was a bad move for the mods but it just wasn’t as engaging for me compared to discord
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
More visibility for individual posts means more clutter, more siloed options means less clutter but less visibility
Bigelow
Bigelow15mo ago
Long-form content is definitely something to improve upon. I think we need to make it more obvious that anyone is able to write for the substack if they want. And maybe find a better way of getting more eyes on new long-form content. Maybe a bot that alerts the general channels when there's a new post or something.
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Still campaigning for a favourite x for £x thread tho
rej
rej15mo ago
No totally, the format of q&a here gets more traffic than the old thread. Without that thread the subreddit is in rough shape
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
I have thoughts on that, I’ll post in mod chat
cathode ray jepsen
Yeah, there’s nothing that’s driving me to look at substack rn
Sam I Am
Sam I Am15mo ago
re: the general topic here, I'm enjoying the discord a lot. I definitely feel more comfortable contributing here; it feels less intimidating
Bigelow
Bigelow15mo ago
the ones on MFA are a bit outdated so redoing them on the discord server could be good
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
#fashion-discussion doesn't even really get much traffic imo
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Same. But wondering if it could be because I’ve gone through the guides when I first started and have now moved on to fit specific questions
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
We also haven’t posted anything new to the substack in a bit But I’m not sure how much traffic goes from discord to substack or how much we care about that rather than just getting eyes on effort posts in general
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Wonder how we could do it because it used to be separated by budget categories and you would then comment under that heading
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Substack is a useful way to format a post over discord, that’s it’s function for us
Bigelow
Bigelow15mo ago
I have an idea for a new "best X for X" channel with threading. gotta think about it though
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
And i think up/downvotes might be useful in that end
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I had just started paying attention to Reddit MFA when the move to discord happened. I feel like I've got a lot of very personalized advice on discord, and the community is good, but it sometimes feels like drinking from a firehose because it's so free flowing and fast moving.
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
its harder to lurk on discord i think and have a good experience, but its easier to contribute I'd reckon thats about 90% of the complaints
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I feel like it might be good to try to develop more substack content.
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
i mean theres the argument of like, whats the point of a guide when fashion is so individual and in constant flux. I think the basics are mostly covered which is partly why theres less interest in writing more guides i think better inspiration and fashion discussion discussion would be better, but for whatever reason theres just less engagement in those channels
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
I'm less interested in guides and more interested in longer-form inspo posts. I always felt those were more helpful at developing style and taste anyway
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I guess on reddit, you had one page for the sub where everyone will see and interact with
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
i think the loss of big inspo albums is the biggest downside of discord to me right now
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
But on discord lots of smaller rooms/channels where not everyone might go exploring
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
and i think thats a cultural problem tbf
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I think fashion is in flux if you are really tuned in to it, but much less if you are a newcomer who wants to dress better
rej
rej15mo ago
It's mostly cause the inspo albums were made by like 2 people who aren't here
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
well one of the problems the sub had for a while is that the BB was super outdated and was actively giving rather bad advice well somewhat bad advice also the other problem is this place skews older in a way that is a chicken and a egg problem
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I'm actually impressed with how it has held up over time.
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
where it kinda needs more streetwear/younger posters but the lack means noone wants to join
cathode ray jepsen
Telling people to wear OCBD and casual blazer to high school type beat
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
cause just ignoring streetwear is like ignoring a solid 70%+
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Well now I feel positively geriatric. 😀
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
given its what most people wear in school and young 20s, and is what has had the biggest influence on high fashion in the last decade he was here, he felt he was a little too terminally online and took a break we are hoping he returns
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
The biggest issue newbies have imo is simply exposure to different styles. I generally think the first step most people are missing is really having any idea what they actually like and dislike. Inspo albums help with that the most. Both viewing them and personally curating stuff you see into a collection of things that you personally like
artvandelayimporting
Leaving the MFA pac 12 (LA) to join the MFA B1G (Boston)
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Yeah, I really liked the inspo albums that covered different styles.
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
The substack as well is missing inspo posts imo. How to Breathe isn't on there afaics https://www.reddit.com/r/malefashionadvice/comments/gjrd22/how_to_breathe_an_album/
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jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I also appreciate diversity. You can do prep or streetwear here, and that's fine.
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
yep, some of the best inspo albums, were called something like 'Gone fishin...' and then just a bunch of cool outerwear fits.
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
ok this gives me an idea for a thread where people should post their personal inspo in the same vein of "favorite fits" and "most bricked fits"
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I liked the goth ninja ones, organized by d&d class There was also a great series on "one look, two prices".
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
#inspiration already exists. But the format isn't quite the same really. This is probably something that will just have to be different from reddit
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Maybe we should start taking some top fit pics and annotating them with what the pieces are and where to buy them
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Yeah it would be nice to have curated inspo posts implemented somehow
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
I kinda hated this series on reddit personally lol
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
no i mean like your personal inspo more than general inspo
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
This place needs karma to give people incentive /s
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
this is something people more into fashion dislike because they are more sensative to things like drape and flow and details imo
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
I don't understand the distinction I think exposing people to the nuance is important. Not all OCBDs are created equal. And the more important details for dressing better is not price
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
i mean common advice (espicially to newbies) is to curate an inspo album that represents your ideal style, id be curious to see various users personal curated albums
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Yeah, it was helpful as a newcomer to realize dressing better isn't just about spending money
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
it feels like a lot of the stuff dumped into inspiration is like day to day "this looks cool and I wanna use this" but less of "I'm in a style rut, let me hit my album I have saved to find something to work off of for my outfit" 🤷 its more transient inspo maybe im wrong
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
I guess I see your distinction. I feel like there's just "focused" inspo. Like trying to create content around a specific style and having a eye to pick that out. Or a specific item/vibe versus just "here's a bunch of stuff I like
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
How about a substack article dissecting two shirts at different price points?
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
agree, and i think both are valuable and i feel like it would be cool to see a users personal "this is stuff i like" if they post in #waywt a bunch kinda see how it informs their style if that makes sense
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
I tried collecting that, as you guys suggested. It didn't really go anywhere.
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
This is off-topic. But my general frustration is the desire for non-enthusiasts to want to speedrun a minmax fashion thing. "Oh I need an OCBD? What's the absolute least amount of money I can spend to get something that is made of oxford cloth and has a button-down collar?"
cathode ray jepsen
The lack of a possibility of like 300 people suddenly showing up from some place like r/redpillanimeboners is an underappreciated advantage of discord.
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
CPs are a great example. As soon as those became popular people immediately tried to find the cheapest "white sneaker CP alternatives" and all nuance and discussion about how Nike Blazers are not CPs are not GATs are not killshots got lost
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Yeah, for me collecting an inspo album didn't really help, but taking and posting just a few WAYWT pics was massively helpful. But also terrifying
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
i think chuck pointed out that one of the problems with a lot of the "best" searches and stuff is if a "best" is found (like CPs for minimal sneakers or MM Replicas for gats) the discussion just shifts to "ok best but cheaper cause thats more money than i really want to spend"
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Realistically, you have to make incremental changes when you are starting out, and start trying to build better outfits from what you already have
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
people say they want the best regardless of cost until confronted with the cost essentially so its always a race to the bottom which is the anti-thesis of fashion
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Actually posting fits is always going to be the best feedback loop. It's short. Direct. And you're working with the actual end product. I personally tend to do that a lot less tho bc personal style is personal and I already have groups of people I want feedback from rather than people I don't know. Posting here tho is great for folks without that same support system This is why I'm anti-guide Inspo is better (they're the same thing tho)
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
It appealed to me in the past as a broke student because I was thinking “whats the least amount of money I can spend while looking good without the piece going in the trash in a years time”
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Good "guides" are really just good inspo posts
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
its can be a bit of a trap cause I have some cheap J. Crew OCBDs and I don't want to wear them in fits where an OCBD would work because they have shit detailing (collar roll) basically the lack of details means i don't end up using it, and I shoulda just spent more to get a nicer one
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
It can't just be pictures, though. Newcomers like me need to know specific options, where to buy, and also general knowledge like "types of leather shoes", "types of fabric", etc. Yeah, this is a totally valid objective
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
I mean, I think tthe fit doctor thread I had is also a great way to kinda show where you want to go, not just a vaccum of "how can I make this fit better" but also "help me get to my goal style" but both are valid ways to improve style
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
Right, the long-form inspo posts like How to breathe on reddit are the type of content I'm referring to.
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Yeah. It's a classic case of a picture is worth a thousand words, because fashion is visual. But you need some words too
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
The BB "guide" is really just an inspo post: https://imgur.com/a/Hd69nWZ
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
But to a newcomer just having pics might lead to just them copping the pieces without knowing how or why it works
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
fashion is hard to get into ngl
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I just wanna look not mid tbh
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Yeah, developing an understanding of how to assemble an outfit is HARD
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
like for that reason
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
That's what they're doing anyway Same brother
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Let alone a complete wardrobe.
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
I think this way around it works better than giving newbies a list of specific brands / items to buy.
Smiles
Smiles15mo ago
even if there is a list we get questions that are essentially "hey I saw the brand list was written x time ago, is it still true?" so it doesn't even do a ton where x ranges from 5 years (reasonable question in that case) to like, 1 month lol
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Our list of recommended stores and brands has been massively useful to me starting out. And the BB is really useful as a list of basic pieces you need for a wardrobe.
tim
tim15mo ago
This. Im not making a fashion statement, I wouldn’t say I’m into fashion at all. Im happy with looking above average This discord probably has a few different audiences
rej
rej15mo ago
It absolutely does I'd consider myself in this camp as well
briquebrutale
briquebrutale15mo ago
no too different to the old reddit mfa; also had different audiences over time
tim
tim15mo ago
Hobby subs have this problem a lot. The shaving sub is like people with collections of so many creams and lotions and tools. I just want to learn to do it right and then move on. I think that’s ok you can’t be an enthusiast of everything
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
These two statements are mutually exclusive imo
rej
rej15mo ago
I've been afk and haven't kept up with the full conversation but most of the guides are a "start here" kind of thing. The only way to really learn is to try and fail and get feedback
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
I guess thats why in some ways I appreciate the discord more
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
Going strictly by our name, we are about advice, and the people who most want advice are going to be uninformed, maybe casual drop ins
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Cause for some reason Im more likely to post Im pretty sure this became an issue on the sub reddit at some point
jfarrell468
jfarrell46815mo ago
But a lot of the regulars are very sophisticated and experienced.
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
Probably during the wide vs slim era
rej
rej15mo ago
I think you're putting the regulars on too high of a pedestal
tim
tim15mo ago
I read a primer on raw denim and it seemed like way too much work for the benefit. I didn’t understand why anyone would go through that. But some people see dressing as part of their personality or identity in a way that I don’t and that’s ok Maybe we could have labels that say what we’re here for and maybe a self described interest level?
kalvin
kalvin15mo ago
A shaving sub? I probably shouldn’t be surprised at this point
rej
rej15mo ago
dudes will do anything to fill their day but spend time with their kids
awburkey
awburkey15mo ago
raw denim is definitely going to be an enthusiast forum. Similar to GYW. There is really only marginal utility in knowing about construction methods or fabric details and such. The main benefit from buying Aldens (or any "known"/hobbyist brand) instead of something from Amazon is that that the details are going to be right. Unsure if a pair of casual penny loafers has the right shape and style? Well if they're Alden LHS and you're dressing similar to the MFA house style you've nailed it. No need to learn about construction, last shape, vamp height, and why LHS are GOAT'd and that knock off on Amazon looks like garbage.
tim
tim15mo ago
Average shaving enthusiast post
letsgosnakes
letsgosnakes15mo ago
To be fair even that post was pretty rare for the sub. Feel like you could count on one hand the number of long form guides posted in a year I miss the longer inspo albums on reddit. Not sure how you replicate that here... is imgur album still the best way or is there a way to upload an album natively in Discord?
cathode ray jepsen
Substack maybe?
rej
rej15mo ago
the inspiration channel clumps pictures into one post. idk what the limit is though
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
Max is 9 or 10 images I believe
rej
rej15mo ago
imgur is probably the easiest way. substack would probably be good
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
I think ideally everything going forward would be either natively on discord or formatted for substack for clarity’s sake
cathode ray jepsen
Imgur p bad but it works
bishopcorrigan
bishopcorrigan15mo ago
If the substack grows it feeds the discord and vice versa
eggtart!
eggtart!15mo ago
I actually like this a lot about large discord communities Feels like with some servers the channels grow into their own little thing and there's space for everyone to hop in and out I'm in a kpop server and I only ever speak in the fitness chat and I'm familiar with the regulars specifically in that channel and occasionally participate in the rest of the server MFA the Reddit at the end of the day only really existed bc of the community of regulars and it is something lurkers repeatedly misunderstood and I'm sure things could be figured out where there isn't a good 1:1
chrishtatu
chrishtatu15mo ago
l like them for when I want to explore a new type/style of garment. Let's me look at a range of brands and compare the construction/styles from the very cheapest fast fashion to pinnacle. A good snapshot of the offerings in one place yk?
Sharky306
Sharky30615mo ago
I agree with all who've said its easier to find guides on reddit. Although those guides are mostly outdated. It's a lot easier to ask simple questions which is awesome though
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