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ARM Enablement

https://pagure.io/fedora-asahi-remix-ostree/tree/f39 - I have put the stuff I am doing with fedora asahi remix on this repo

j0rge•8/21/23, 12:03 AM

cc @jeefy @w8emv

akdevOP•8/21/23, 12:06 AM

My next step was going to be converting my asahi Linux system to ostree somehow

akdevOP•8/21/23, 12:08 AM

Also we will need aarch64 images and asahi specific in the end

jeefy•8/21/23, 2:07 AM

@akdev I spent a weekend trying to do that following some of the stuff done in https://github.com/ublue-os/upgrade-tools and I never got it. Curious if this could have the missing piece.

GitHub

GitHub - ublue-os/upgrade-tools: Migration Tools

Migration Tools. Contribute to ublue-os/upgrade-tools development by creating an account on GitHub.

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:41 AM

This looks exactly like what I need for testing

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:58 AM

No fucking way it worked lmao

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:58 AM

it worked on a VM at least

akdevOP•8/21/23, 3:01 AM

Okay so there’s only 1 point of variance in VM vs real HW which is that real HW boots using m1n1 > uboot chainload

akdevOP•8/21/23, 3:01 AM

I was reading today that ostree should support uboot natively so this should be easy hopefully

akdevOP•8/21/23, 3:04 AM

Aakdev Okay so there’s only 1 point of variance in VM vs real HW which is that real HW ...

jeefy•8/21/23, 4:12 AM

I could, through my sheer will of head-bashing into a brick wall, get it to work.

jeefy•8/21/23, 4:12 AM

I am, also, not an actual linux nerd like @j0rge

jeefy•8/21/23, 4:13 AM

But no joke if you manage to get something remotely working I'll test it on my m1 for validation within 24h

j0rge•8/21/23, 4:17 AM

and your apps will be flatpaks, so like all your stuff will be up to date, you just won't be getting system updates but you know how to mitigate that already. I mean worse case ask alex to make you another one, but I bet ya'll will be done way faster

Jjeefy @akdev I spent a weekend trying to do that following some of the stuff done in h...

le_melon•8/21/23, 6:39 AM

@jeefy, hey friend! I wrote this; happy to explain anything on it

Aakdev No fucking way it worked lmao

le_melon•8/21/23, 6:41 AM

Ayyyy! Hell yeah lmao

akdevOP•8/21/23, 11:01 AM

I killed my real asahi installation last night

Aakdev I killed my real asahi installation last night 😬

xkrith•8/21/23, 12:27 PM

I wiped my Asahi ALARM install as well, looking forward to trying Asahi Fedora next month. Installed this in a VM in the meantime https://i.imgur.com/1sKsttT.png

Imgur

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:11 PM

Tried again and killed my install again

Jjeefy @akdev I spent a weekend trying to do that following some of the stuff done in h...

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:11 PM

Following this process sadly doesn’t work on real HW

Aakdev Following this process sadly doesn’t work on real HW 😦

jeefy•8/21/23, 2:39 PM

Like I said I tried using it and lost about twenty hours of my life because I'm stubborn

jeefy•8/21/23, 2:39 PM

But it's the closest thing to converting a regular install to ostree

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:41 PM

I think the plan of attack will be to get two asahi installs going so I can compare them

akdevOP•8/21/23, 2:41 PM

It may ultimately be easier to figure out the way to make a payload for the installer

xkrith•8/22/23, 4:41 PM

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/conformant-gpu-drivers-and-remix-updates/87834

Fedora Discussion

Conformant GPU drivers and Remix updates

As of today, we’re happy to announce that Asahi Linux is fully conformant to OpenGL ES 3.1. This update is already available in the Fedora Asahi Remix, and existing systems can get by running dnf update (being mindful of the kernel-16k switch if you’re on an old install). We’d previously announced that we expected to officially release Fedora A...

akdevOP•8/22/23, 5:26 PM

I’ll switch out my container image to kernel-16k

Lina•8/23/23, 4:00 PM

using fedora asahi linux right now. it's quite challenging using it in a container-first way that silverblue would demand

Lina•8/23/23, 4:04 PM

many apps dont work ootb. even a lot of FOSS ones, like telegram not resolving an issue with jemalloc upstream because ???

Lina•8/23/23, 4:07 PM

back on arch you could recompile an app by pulling a pkgbuild from AUR and changing some settings so it would work on asahi. i guess you could do it in an arch distrobox but id rather have a flatpak

j0rge•8/23/23, 4:07 PM

have you tried building the flatpak?

Lina•8/23/23, 4:07 PM

as such for asahi silverblue enablement i think a flatpak remote with fixed apps would be nice to have

j0rge•8/23/23, 4:08 PM

pretty sure the intent is for flathub's flatpaks to work ootb on arm machines

Jj0rge pretty sure the intent is for flathub's flatpaks to work ootb on arm machines

Lina•8/23/23, 4:09 PM

ideally yes but some maintainers dont want to accommodate for asahi: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/24564#issuecomment-1146508040

GitHub

Cannot start on Asahi Linux · Issue #24564 · telegramdesktop/tdeskt...

Steps to reproduce Try launching telegram-desktop. Expected behaviour TG should function on 16K page systems. Actual behaviour Crash immediately with the following error: <jemalloc>: Unsuppor...

j0rge•8/23/23, 4:10 PM

yeah, the ecosystem will need to adapt and fix the issues, but that's always been the case with initial arm support for stuff

xkrith•8/23/23, 5:11 PM

does that have something to do with the 16k page-size kernel they are now using instead of 4k?

Jj0rge pretty sure the intent is for flathub's flatpaks to work ootb on arm machines

akdevOP•8/23/23, 5:15 PM

It’s not the architecture that’s the problem, it’s the page size

LLina many apps dont work ootb. even a lot of FOSS ones, like telegram not resolving a...

xkrith•8/23/23, 5:15 PM

try installing kernel-4kkernel-4k to see if there's any difference

akdevOP•8/23/23, 5:15 PM

That’s not recommended as that would mean things like USB ports don’t work

akdevOP•8/23/23, 5:16 PM

Asahi Linux only supports 16K page size really

akdevOP•8/23/23, 5:18 PM

akdevOP•8/23/23, 5:22 PM

https://github.com/jemalloc/jemalloc/issues/467

GitHub

Compiled-in page size makes jemalloc binaries unportable · Issue #4...

I see that configure uses sysconf(_SC_PAGESIZE) at compile time to determine the page size. However, this can vary depending on kernel configuration, so a jemalloc compiled on one machine may have ...