Debian fully supports three ports to different flavours of little-endian ARM hardware: The ARM EABI

Debian fully supports three ports to different flavours of little-endian ARM hardware:

The ARM EABI (armel) port targets a range of older 32-bit ARM devices, particularly those used in NAS hardware and a variety of *plug computers.

The newer ARM hard-float (armhf) port supports newer, more powerful 32-bit devices using version 7 of the ARM architecture specification.

The 64-bit ARM (arm64) port supports the latest 64-bit ARM-powered devices.

Rraycert07 Arm32 chips have not been made for decades

Loku 🇱🇻•9/16/23, 4:57 PM

Doesn't pi zero run 32bit soc...?

CootOP•9/16/23, 4:57 PM

32 is useful for less demanding tasks

LLoku 🇱🇻Doesn't pi zero run 32bit soc...?

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:57 PM

It uses an ancient cpu

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:57 PM

Also only has half a gb of ram

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:58 PM

It couldn't run a 64 bit os if the cpu supported it

CCoot Debian fully supports three ports to different flavours of little-endian ARM har...

Loku 🇱🇻•9/16/23, 4:58 PM

for the image https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst

Loku 🇱🇻•9/16/23, 4:58 PM

Press on armel or armhf for 32bit..

CCoot 32 is useful for less demanding tasks

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:58 PM

The issue is, it ends up being MORE INTENSIVE because running 32 bit apps and os's on a 64 bit cpu means everything is emulated, which makes the experience slower and use more power.

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:58 PM

All because you don't have enough ram

Rraycert07 The issue is, it ends up being MORE INTENSIVE because running 32 bit apps and os...

CootOP•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

still can handle the load

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

It's not faster

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

It's actually slower

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

Because it's emulation

CootOP•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

i was able to listen to music on firefox while using geany (a ide), webcord and filezila at the same time

raycert07•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

Which is exactly why arm32 is phased out

Rraycert07 It's not faster

CootOP•9/16/23, 4:59 PM

faster than what?

CCoot i was able to listen to music on firefox while using geany (a ide), webcord and ...

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

Wow you were able to run 4 apps‽

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

at the same time without any lags lmao

CCoot faster than what?

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

Its not faster than a 64 bit app or a 64 bit os

CCoot at the same time without any lags lmao

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

Shiver me timbers

Rraycert07 Its not faster than a 64 bit app or a 64 bit os

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

well ofc since theyre using more updated technologies

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

No, that's not why

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:00 PM

my new phone crashes x11 and freezes when i try to run vscode armcord and firefox at the same time

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:01 PM

It's because all arm and x86 cpus from the past decade or 2 have been 64 bit. Running 32 bit shit on them makes them slower because they are emulated

CCoot my new phone crashes x11 and freezes when i try to run vscode armcord and firefo...

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:01 PM

Don't act like your old phone was better in any way

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:01 PM

I literally own your old phone

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:01 PM

It blows ass

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:01 PM

It struggles to run spotify

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:02 PM

it wasnt better but it didnt had as many issues at my new one tbh

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:02 PM

my new one cant even handle a anr

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:02 PM

Your just trying to justify why Google should continue to support a slower, outdated, and dead architecture for android apps and os's

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

arm32 is still used widely

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

No, it's not

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

old raspberry pis use it

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

Yeah, old rpi

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

With even older cpus

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

The new rpi uses old cpus

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

That's how they are so cheap

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

Use old chips

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:03 PM

Even the pi 3 was 64 bit iirc

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:04 PM

The pi os wasn't 64 bit, but you could install other os's that were.

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:04 PM

They are old cheap and slow chips, so they source them for cheap.

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

But it works out, because they aren't made for using as a computer. Web browsing on a pi can be a pain.

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

cheap? theyre like 40$ for base model lmao

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

That's mega cheap

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

thats expensive for what it is

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

They sell them for the cost to make

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:05 PM

They get the cpus for really cheap. That's 99% of the cost

CootOP•9/16/23, 5:08 PM

a72 cpus are cheap

raycert07•9/16/23, 5:09 PM

Not cheap enough

Debian fully supports three ports to different flavours of little-endian ARM hardware: The ARM EABI

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