Silk.NET•3y ago

why what was the difference

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:13 PM

still have wsl1 installed

AAqua why what was the difference

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

it's not just a VM

AAqua why what was the difference

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

WSL1 wasnt a whole VM

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

ahhh ok

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

it literally ran the linux apps

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

on windows

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

nice

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

they actually implemented part of the linux kernel on NT

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

im guessing it was too much effort for ol' mikey to continue on with it i guess

TechPizza•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

we can't have nice things

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

its why its called the "windows subsystem for linux"

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

since WSL1 was a whole NT personality iirc

AAqua im guessing it was too much effort for ol' mikey to continue on with it i guess

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:14 PM

no, it couldn't go GPU acceleration for machine learning so they ditched it

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

l o l

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

they COULD have just piped D3D12 in there like they did with WSL2

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

~~people care about machine learning?~~

MMaxine that's just any rust program

Perksey•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

i was looking into that, it's because of silly things like it having to traverse like five functions to work out that

for x in 0..3

for x in 0..3

is a for loop. because it technically desugars into

Range range = Range(0, 3);
RangeIter iter = RangeIter(range);
Option<uintptr_t> next = iter.next();
LOOP:
if (next.is_some())
{
    // loop logic
    goto LOOP;
}

Range range = Range(0, 3);
RangeIter iter = RangeIter(range);
Option<uintptr_t> next = iter.next();
LOOP:
if (next.is_some())
{
    // loop logic
    goto LOOP;
}

instead of

for (uintptr_t i = 0; i < 3; i++)

for (uintptr_t i = 0; i < 3; i++)

like a sane compiler

AAqua ~~people care about machine learning?~~

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

people care about money
and machine learning makes money

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

tru

PPerksey i was looking into that, it's because of silly things like it having to traverse...

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

what the fuck

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:15 PM

at this point maybe llvm should special case rustc output

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

mind blown that rust performs at all

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

maybe LLVM should special case rustc and just fuckign delete the users hard drive when they try to compile rust code

Perksey•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

you create the range 0..3, you call into_iter on it, you call next on the result of that, if next is some then you loop

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

yeah idk why languages seem to be devolving into range-based for loops

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

cause unless you compile it properly

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

that aint gonna be faster

Perksey•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

and most of LLVM's time is spent passing over loads of those functions

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

rust is a clear example of this

Perksey•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

it does a good job of inlining and simplifying everything

Perksey•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

but that's what's taking the time

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

range based for loop are great when the compiler actually lowers it reasonably

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:16 PM

yup

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

it does not surprise me that rust's compiler doesn't

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

rust was a mistake

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

i would have been surprised if it did do it properly

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

silly goofy experimental language now used in production

MMaxine rust was a mistake

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

so was iron and most types of material honestly

MMaxine rust was a mistake

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

NO-

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

DON'T SAY THAT

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

ANGER

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

i am unfathomably angery at this statement

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:17 PM

"what if we made everything use a borrow checker?" statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged

Maxine•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

thread safety by torturing the developer so much they decide to just make it single threaded

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

that is

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

true

Lyris the Kitori•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

just write faster code and you wont need to multithread

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

threads made me want to launch myself off into bed

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

ok that sounds sus but you get what i mean

AquaOP•10/7/23, 10:18 PM

threads were just terrible

why what was the difference

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