btw -- do we know if anyone at Heatblur has a Rhino? if not, i would be happy to help contribute to
btw -- do we know if anyone at Heatblur has a Rhino? if not, i would be happy to help contribute to a fund to make sure someone there gets one 
NIDK.. unlikely is my guess.. but c'mon.. FFB is FFB.. sidewinders are a dime a dozen on ebay if your only interested in dev testing 
Aa sidewinder is not at all like a rhino
Aand the things you might do on a lower end device, may not translate well to a rhino
Nin terms of reacting to basic FFB implementation from DCS?
Ain terms of building an FFB experience that matches the jet
Abut it's also one of those top of mind things, by having one, they probably end up using it, and want to ensure it has good support in the modules they build
Ait's all a self perpetuating circle
Nwell, I often see developer responses to queries about FFB fixes and/or implementations as "we don't have a device".. which is more of what the spirit of my response was referring to
Aand the spirit of my trying to fix that problem 
WI do offer the developers of modules a cancelled spot in the queue, so if they want they could obtain a Rhino quite quickly. A dev from Polychop did reach out to me, but for some reason did not follow through yet with the order.
WAlso a Rhino is quite useful for developing FFB since it has the live debug view of the effects 
BI am a developer ... 
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DThe VPForce software makes up for the lack of implementation in DCS
Ait does help for sure
NNew TelemFFB update for MSFS bringing the often asked about trim and autopilot following feature to life. The features are fully documented in the Rhino manual (linked below) so I won't bore you to death with details here. Grab the latest version from #VPforce-TelemFFB .
Huge thanks to @smitty981 who was instrumental in brainstorming , testing, documentation and providing a good number of example aircraft configs!.
Huge thanks to @smitty981 who was instrumental in brainstorming , testing, documentation and providing a good number of example aircraft configs!.
NMSFS
Please read the full documentation in the VPForce Manualhttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y
- New option to send joystick/pedal axis position to MSFS via simconnect. Requires un-binding axes from MSFS
- telemffb_controls_axes - Master control for simconnect axis sending (true/false)
- joystick_x_axis_scale - Scale joystick x axis output (0-%100)
- joystick_y_axis_scale - Scale joystick y axis output (0-%100)
- rudder_x_axis_scale - Scale pedal axis output (0-%100)
- telemffb_controls_axes - Master control for simconnect axis sending (true/false)
- New trim and AP following functionality for fixed wing aircraft. REQUIRES `telemffb_controls_axes = True`
- trim_following = True - Master control for trim/ap following (true/false)
- ap_following - Enable/disable ap following (only disables aileron/rudder) (true/false)
- invert_ap_x_axis - Invert the x axis AP follow behavior (req'd for some AC like the default C172)
- joystick_trim_follow_gain_physical_x - Physical stick x axis movement as a percentage of the trim value (0-100%)
- joystick_trim_follow_gain_physical_y - Physical stick y axis movement as a percentage of the trim value (0-100%)
- joystick_trim_follow_gain_virtual_x - Virtual stick x axis movement as a percentage of the physical stick movement (0-100%)
- joystick_trim_follow_gain_virtual_y - Virtual stick y axis movement as a percentage of the physical stick movement (0-100%)
- rudder_trim_follow_gain_physical_x - Physical pedal x axis movement as a percentage of the trim value (0-100%)
- rudder_trim_follow_gain_virtual_x - Virtual pedal x axis movement as a percentage of the physical pedal movement (0-100%)
- trim_following = True - Master control for trim/ap following (true/false)
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EWow! That is just awesome! Thanks for all your hard work!
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BI think I ran into this just yesterday. I have a new VKB FSM-GA autopilot module that I was configuring, and the AP in MSFS kept kicking off b/c I had some hardware trim applied. Is that what this fixes?
NIt doesn't 'fix' anything, per se.. but it does allow you to control how much virtual stick movement occurs as a result of the physical stick movement. During testing, @smitty981 said he had previously had an trim issue with the AP in the Comanche that he was able to solve with the this trim following implementation.
Syep i have a hardware trim axis made with a somewhat noisy potentiometer, so in the control sensitivity i had a deazone in the middle. even before vpforce if i left the trim wheel out of the deadzone with AP on, the noise would send a new value and make AP twitch a bit. so i turn on AP and slowly rotate it back to the deadzone. if you use the trim up down buttons or an encoder-based trim wheel it's not an issue.
NThe big difference here compared to hardware trim is that hardware trim has no insight into the state of the aircraft. You set the trim, which just moves the stick spring center offset, which moves the axis by an equal amount. Whether you later engage AP or not, HW trim does not know and the stick offset will remain until you change or reset it.
With this new TelemFFB implementation, the trim movement of the stick is actually following the trim values as read from the sim (so you'll want to have your trim hats bound in the sim). The gain settings affect how much the physical stick moves in response to the trim value changing, and how much the virtual stick moves in response to the physical stick movement.
When you switch AP on, the elevator axis continues to follow the trim reading from the sim (since thats what APs use to adjust pitch). The aileron/rudder following reads the actual control surface deflection to determine how much to move the physical stick.
With this new TelemFFB implementation, the trim movement of the stick is actually following the trim values as read from the sim (so you'll want to have your trim hats bound in the sim). The gain settings affect how much the physical stick moves in response to the trim value changing, and how much the virtual stick moves in response to the physical stick movement.
When you switch AP on, the elevator axis continues to follow the trim reading from the sim (since thats what APs use to adjust pitch). The aileron/rudder following reads the actual control surface deflection to determine how much to move the physical stick.
Gdoes anybody own a virpil collective chair mount? im curious to know ho high the spacers are
NI'm not familiar with the mount (don't have one), but I am familiar with trying to get dimensions for virpil products. Have you looked at the thread on their forums where they post a lot of additional drawings and dimensions that aren't on the product page? It's on the russian side of the forums (so you may need a translator plugin for your browser)
Jthere's also the r/hotas discord server with a dedicated virpil channel
NNot sure if this has what you're looking for..
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BThank you for that detailed 'splainin'. Question: why is the trim hat functionality (U/D/L/R, that can be done in the configurator's HW Force Trim setup) not implemented in TelemFFB? I use it all of the time for things like the MD500E and MD530F, but it would be nice to switch it off for other aircraft. Is it some kind of technical issue?
NWell…largely, I guess, because I or someone else hasn’t implemented it yet 
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Technically, I don’t see any issues, but I haven’t thought it all the way through.
When I did the force trim implementation in TelemFFB, that was for the exact reason you state. I didn’t want to have to switch force trim and sticky spring on and off in vpconf when switching between helis and fixed wing.
. Technically, I don’t see any issues, but I haven’t thought it all the way through.
When I did the force trim implementation in TelemFFB, that was for the exact reason you state. I didn’t want to have to switch force trim and sticky spring on and off in vpconf when switching between helis and fixed wing.
NFollow up question: FFB not withstanding, Do those helis respond to the trim inputs in Msfs?
NI really need to increase my MSFS helicopter portfolio, but I really don’t want to buy a bunch of aircraft I’ll probably rarely/never fly.
BI don't know. All I know is that with Hardware Trim turned on, the MD500E (and the Cabri G2) respond as I would expect given my S300 and short MD500 RL experience, over a decade ago. I think that if you get it right for the G2, the other similarly equipped helis will follow along. (AFAIK all three of those have cyclic-mounted trim hats.)
I have the 500E and 530F payware helis. They are quite similar, and are both are loads of fun to fly. Much twitchier than the 407 or G2, but therefore more fun to do "canyon carving" in. And, beyond the extremely lame omission of turbine fuel control axis bindings in MSFS (you have to use the mouse), they start up/shut down just as I would expect. But it irritates the s888 out of me that I can't use my Virpil twist fuel control to manage startup, in either of the 5xx helis, or any other turbine heli.
I have the 500E and 530F payware helis. They are quite similar, and are both are loads of fun to fly. Much twitchier than the 407 or G2, but therefore more fun to do "canyon carving" in. And, beyond the extremely lame omission of turbine fuel control axis bindings in MSFS (you have to use the mouse), they start up/shut down just as I would expect. But it irritates the s888 out of me that I can't use my Virpil twist fuel control to manage startup, in either of the 5xx helis, or any other turbine heli.
NI’ll study the helicopter trim simvar data a little and see if it might be possible to do what I just did for fixed wing trim (as opposed to blind hardware trim..which would be a fallback option if the sim based trim trim doesn’t work)
NBTW, regardless of what does or doesn't get added to TelemFFB.. you can already set a custom vpconf profile per aircraft in the TelemFFB config if you want. So you could have a profile with the hardware trim hat enabled and assign that to your helicopters. Have one without hardware trim hat and apply it at the root MSFS level
SHm 500 to go meanwhile im still waiting for the email to get the winwing f15ex grip from the EU store makes me honestly wonder which will arrive first the rhino or the stroke eagle grip 
GNo but thanks!:)
GDidnt check out virpils forum thanks
SHow many are in the que to get one now? 
GLike 500
Syes
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or an even less percentage for twitchy helis, you can affect all of them like this or do it per heli:
or an even less percentage for twitchy helis, you can affect all of them like this or do it per heli:
BI did not know that was possible. Thanks!
Nyeap.. that feature is all walmis...
Just create and export your vpconf profiles (I export them into the configs folder inside the VPforce Configurator folder)..
Then in your TelemFFB user.ini file, you can say, for example...
That will load the default profile for any aircraft that you load into...
Then you could say...
to load a profile for all helicopters, or you could say...
To load a specific profile for a specific aircraft
Just create and export your vpconf profiles (I export them into the configs folder inside the VPforce Configurator folder)..
Then in your TelemFFB user.ini file, you can say, for example...
That will load the default profile for any aircraft that you load into...
Then you could say...
to load a profile for all helicopters, or you could say...
To load a specific profile for a specific aircraft
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You'll hear your Rhino beep indicating that the profile was loaded (if you don't have the beep disabled)
You'll hear your Rhino beep indicating that the profile was loaded (if you don't have the beep disabled)
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