Try this though. Manually set telemFFB to use the addr2 slot in the IL-2 config, then set `l2_cfg_v

Try this though.

Manually set telemFFB to use the addr2 slot in the IL-2 config, then set

l2_cfg_validation

l2_cfg_validation

l2_cfg_validation

l2_cfg_validation to disable in your TelemFFB user config.

If SRS/SSW still error out, I'm afraid you'll have to go to them for support to get it working

DDr. No But i wonder if we can send the telemetry on the same channel maybe the same por...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:02 PM

no, because only one app can bind a given ip/port pairing at a time

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:02 PM

Ah i see what you mean

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:03 PM

Whats interesting is that I actually have an additional app pysim thats using shaker for bhaptics vest and its just purely looking at some same port and shaking i didnt have to do anything more

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:04 PM

Bc its using the same signal from port 29373 as the butt kicker

https://github.com/cercata/pysim2bhap

GitHub

GitHub - cercata/pysim2bhap: bHaptics support for simulators

bHaptics support for simulators. Contribute to cercata/pysim2bhap development by creating an account on GitHub.

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:05 PM

In this case ... Thats 2 different applications/programs

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:07 PM

So i wonder if i just change the port for the buttkicker to use your 35*** port would it work ... But unfortunately you guys are using that 255 address instead of the standard following 0 address. So i dont think that would work bc its a different ip address.

NNumber481 Try this though. Manually set telemFFB to use the addr2 slot in the IL-2 config...

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:08 PM

I will definitely try addr2 for telemFFB though!

DDr. No So i wonder if i just change the port for the buttkicker to use your 35*** port ...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:23 PM

if they opened a port on 127.0.0.1:34385, they would also get the stream that is being sent to TelemFFB.. But I don't know if you can change the port in SSW .

DDr. No Whats interesting is that I actually have an additional app pysim thats using sh...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:24 PM

I'm a network guy.. not a network enabled app developer guy

It may be possible to use the same ip/port across different apps. I just know that for TelemFFB, I can not bind the same ip/port between multiple instances (hence why I am using the broadcast address).

NNumber481 This is why I use 127.255.255.255 as the destination address in the config I wri...

walmis•11/12/23, 1:25 PM

Not sure here, but IL2 might not set SO_BROADCAST flag, even if the address is broadcast, so that might cause issues.

Wwalmis Not sure here, but IL2 might not set SO_BROADCAST flag, even if the address is b...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:34 PM

It must, since multiple instances of TelemFFB work at the same time.

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:52 PM

So does that mean you are able to get two instances of TelemFFB to work on IL2 (one for stick base, another one for say FFB rudder pedals )?

DDr. No So does that mean you are able to get two instances of TelemFFB to work on IL2 (...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:53 PM

yes

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:54 PM

Wicked man, makes me more compelled to do the rudder pedal mod now since i have the Thrustmaster TPRs

Dr. No•11/12/23, 1:55 PM

DDr. No Wicked man, makes me more compelled to do the rudder pedal mod now since i have ...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 1:59 PM

IL-2 doesnt understand FFB pedals and TelemFFB doesn't add any dynamic forces yet (so its just all the haptic effects). But I plan on extending it to at least implement dynamic spring force based on speed. There is not enough telemetry available from IL-2 to do anything more advanced.

Wwalmis Not sure here, but IL2 might not set SO_BROADCAST flag, even if the address is b...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 3:10 PM

~~Looking into this a bit more…it may be possible to use SO_REUSEADDR and/or SO_REUSEPORT since this is all UDP sockets. Will look into it further.~~Edit: Nope.. windoze doesnt support REUSEPORT, and REUSEADDR (which is already in the code) doesn't seem to have the desired effect. If I set the host address to 127.0.0.1 in TelemFFB, only one copy will work at a time as each additional instance is stuck in TIME_WAIT for the socket to be available

Dr. No•11/12/23, 3:57 PM

Take a look at Andres latest post ... Looks like he can fwd it.
https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/57925-simshaker-wings-support-thread-for-il-2-users/page/23/#comment-1292475

IL-2 Sturmovik Forum

SimShaker - Wings support thread for IL-2 users

DDr. No Take a look at Andres latest post ... Looks like he can fwd it. https://forum.il...

Number481OP•11/12/23, 4:03 PM

If thats the case then you can send it to TelemFFB (127.255.255.255 port 34385). Then remove TelemFFBs config from the [telemetrydevice][telemetrydevice] part of the IL2 config (but leave it in the motiondevicemotiondevice section as it needs both sets of data).

Then disable the config validation in the TelemFFB config.

Dr. No•11/12/23, 4:14 PM

Very cool and then just leave addr1 for srs

Dr. No•11/12/23, 4:17 PM

Might want to create something like this port forwarding for your telemffb program for the same purpose as they have, you just continue port forwarding for all the ffb apps you want and none will be stuck and run out of ip/ports due to IL2 addr limitation.

Scotia•11/13/23, 4:20 AM

my pitch motor isn't recentering as well as my roll motor. anyone got any tips?

SScotia my pitch motor isn't recentering as well as my roll motor. anyone got any tips?

Number481OP•11/13/23, 1:17 PM

what's your setup like? Heavy grip? Long extension? Offset extension? Depending on these things, you may need to adjust the "balance springs" to compensate. You can also use "adaptive recentering" to help keep the stick centered.

NNumber481 what's your setup like? Heavy grip? Long extension? Offset extension? Depen...

Scotia•11/13/23, 3:20 PM

swap between the light f-14 grip and a heavy f-18 thrustmaster grip. They’re on a bent Virpil 200m extension.

After tightining some belt screws, it seems to better. No problems recentering with the DCS hornet. Recentering with the DCS Tomcat is sluggish.

I don't think it's a motor issue. I just don't know if my firmware is set incorrectly or if it's DCS

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:14 PM

Hey guys - I'm having an issue with my 1 week old Rhino. More specifically, I'm having an issue with my 1+ year old VKB MCG Ultimate grip connected to it via the included connector.

I was just tweaking my config and testing it ingame (DCS) with the F-14 doing some high-alpha manoeuvres with the stick shaking pretty harshly when I noticed the trim had stopped working. I checked my bindings, but they were fine. The grip, however, was not. Green light was out and and no inputs registered, neither in-game or in Windows or in the VKB config or button tester apps.

I have tried restarting my PC and re-starting my USB hub to no avail. I have tried moving the grip over to my old Gunfighter Mk3 and connecting that to the black box and voila... green light in the grip, all buttons registering. All good.

Moved it back to the Rhino... dead.

=/

This would suggest to me that the VKB adapter has died? The black box is still flashing red, fwiw.

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:17 PM

Blackbox will always flash red, that's normal. With the adapter we are bypassing the controller in the blackbox so it flashing red doesn't mean the grip is broken

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:18 PM

Right. It was more to mention that the box is still alive. =)

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:19 PM

Howerver, if it was shaking hard and then stopped, did you try power cycling the Rhino? Even using e-stop should help. Happened to me once when I was fiddling with the effects with P-47, there was a lot of shaking and it went limp. Reverted the effects, cycled the rhino and all was good

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:20 PM

Yes. I have both turned off the Rhino itself and the USB hub powering both the Rhino and the black box.

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:20 PM

Hasn't helped, unfortunately.

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:22 PM

For clarity - the Rhino is fine. That's not the thing that stopped working from the shaking. It's only the grip that stopped working. The Rhino just started the fans after a bit and that was it. It powered through the shaking without any issues. The grip is the one that stopped working from that treatment (I assume).

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:23 PM

So when you connect the MGCU on the Rhino with the adapter, you get no green light on it anymore, but it works on the VKB base, right?

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:23 PM

Correct, yes.

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:23 PM

I get an initial white light as the power comes on.

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:23 PM

But it doesn't turn to green. It just goes off.

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:26 PM

That is odd, almost like there's connectivity issue, grip not getting the power

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:27 PM

Indeed.

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:29 PM

I mean, I know that those contact pads and the pogo pins can work to their own demise with the pins gouging a hole in the pads making the contact worse. That's why I soldered the wires directly to the pads

Can you check the pads on the adapter, make sure there are no such holes? Also if you don't tighten the grip to the adapter and you rotate it slightly does the connection restore?

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:32 PM

Yes!

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:33 PM

Undoing the grip tightening a little and rotating the grip did restore the connection!

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:33 PM

I have a green light once again!

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:34 PM

Experimenting a bit, it seems like there are some zones across the rotation of the grip that work and some that don't... to my dismay, putting it all the way to the stop doesn't work =/

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:35 PM

If you can, put small bit of solder on the each pad (make sure not to bridge) to thicken them, that theoretically should help with maintaining the connection, but it's to be expected that eventual vibrations will work against it

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:36 PM

I see.

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:36 PM

Thanks a million for the help!

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:37 PM

What a relief to get it working again... though it's a bummer it appears to be shaky/fragile =/.
When you say "apply a bit of solder", I assume you mean to let it also cool off before applying the grip on top?

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:38 PM

Is there anything else or more I can do to try to alleviate this whole issue?

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:38 PM

Yeah, melt a bit of solder. By the time you do all three pads, put the soldering iron down and pick up the grip it'll be ready.

Vakarian•11/13/23, 10:40 PM

As for more permanent solution, only way I see it getting fixed is to solder the wires from the grip to the adapter. That is however, a destructive fix as you practically tie that grip to the adapter and the Rhino and I wouldn't recommend it unless you are absolutely sure about this

RimanDk•11/13/23, 10:40 PM

Yeah, I was afraid of that.

Try this though. Manually set telemFFB to use the addr2 slot in the IL-2 config, then set `l2_cfg_v

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