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Yasuke
Hey does the new steamos update have the same version of mesa as bazzite?
Hey does the new steamos update have the same version of mesa as bazzite
?
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Yasuke
Hey does the new steamos update have the same version of mesa as bazzite?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:40 AM
different
, but the new build of SteamOS does have the shader cache changes
, yes
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:41 AM
But its still using shaders
?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:41 AM
hm
?
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
I thought the point of the driver update was so that we didnt need the shader cache anymore
?
Y
Yasuke
I thought the point of the driver update was so that we didnt need the shader ca...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
no
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
they will always be needed
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
that
's never not gonna be true
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
they are half the size they were and building them no longer stutters
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
that
's all it does
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:42 AM
so wait
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:43 AM
basically youre saying the need to prebuild them is gone but still build them
?
Y
Yasuke
basically youre saying the need to prebuild them is gone but still build them?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:43 AM
they are built at load instead of at render
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:43 AM
so it doesn
't stutter in game
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:43 AM
in the interest of battery life they will still be cached
& shared
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:43 AM
since generating them is still a wasteful process
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:44 AM
and im assuming a proformance cost as well
?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:44 AM
yeah
, just during load
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:44 AM
shader compilation is expensive
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
damn it see this is the one thing that makes me feel conflicted about using bazzite
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
Hm
?
T
tryhardsoccermomswag
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
this is not exclusive to bazzite
T
tryhardsoccermomswag
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
this is linux gaming
Y
Yasuke
OP
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11/18/23, 1:45 AM
because in most cases i dont get that shader cache download and then i have to build it myself
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
yeah
, this is true anywhere you use proton
Y
Yasuke
because in most cases i dont get that shader cache download and then i have to b...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
the more people that use bazzite the more will be pre
-generated and shared on steam
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:45 AM
that
's how this works
, it
's P2P
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:46 AM
ah so basically if im not getting the download and i build them at some point im assuming it will upload them for others
?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:46 AM
right
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:46 AM
shader caches are specific to
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:46 AM
1
: hardware
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:46 AM
2
: mesa version
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
each time mesa updates new caches are needed
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
well
, when the hell does this upload happen
?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
K
Kyle Gospo
each time mesa updates new caches are needed
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
oh
, so they really will always need updates at some point
.
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
yeah
K
Kyle Gospo
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:47 AM
oh thats lame lol
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:50 AM
oh wow i was wrong
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:51 AM
i just turned the shader precache back on and then i just a shader cache update for scarlet nexus
, elden ring
, forza
, spiderman and a few others
Y
Yasuke
i just turned the shader precache back on and then i just a shader cache update ...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:51 AM
yea like I said leave that on
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:51 AM
very important
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:51 AM
it does more than shaders too
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:53 AM
you also mentioned videos correct
?
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 1:53 AM
that part still is super odd to me
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:53 AM
some games use videos with proprietary codecs that can
't be used on linux
(legally
)
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:53 AM
so part of the shader cache is transcoded videos
K
Kyle Gospo
•
11/18/23, 1:53 AM
to replace them
T
tryhardsoccermomswag
•
11/18/23, 1:59 AM
shaders suck and take up storage but like
.
.
. thats how it be
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 2:43 AM
facts bro
. facts
Y
Yasuke
OP
•
11/18/23, 2:46 AM
honestly i think ill just stay put
. this thing is stable
, and low key had feature before offical steam os got them
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