It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when transitioning from

It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when transitioning from hover to forward flight. Anybody have an idea wether this is intentional or no and how I could disable it?

FFierce_Fire It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when...

TrigaNZ•11/29/23, 9:12 PM

Aerodynamic effect called translation. Look it up, all whirly birds do it.

Icebeat•11/29/23, 9:45 PM

any configuration recommendation for the apache?

VPforceBot•11/30/23, 12:28 PM

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FFierce_Fire It seems like helicopters, (at least, apache in dcs) apply a shaking effect when...

Number481•11/30/23, 12:39 PM

Yes, it is intentional as part of the "Effective Translational Lift" effect, as Kiwi said. If you want to adjust the intensity or onset characteristics, look at the following in the config for the Apache (or any other aircraft)

Note that all of the default effect settings are based on the Rhino with the periodic effects slider in VPf Configurator set at %50

Fierce_FireOP•11/30/23, 1:11 PM

I see, thanks

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I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 2:42 PM

My Rhino arrives today, I have a Virpil stick, is it just plug and play? Can I use extensions?

II/JG7_Moto My Rhino arrives today, I have a Virpil stick, is it just plug and play? Can I u...

walmis•11/30/23, 2:46 PM

Yeah, all Virpil stuff is plug and play

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 2:47 PM

Thanks, Do I need to setup anything in DCS? check a box or something?

walmis•11/30/23, 2:52 PM

Make sure the Force Feedback is checked in DCS misc settings

walmis•11/30/23, 2:52 PM

Other in depth stuff you can find in the manual
https://vpforcecontrols.com/downloads/VPforce_Rhino_Manual.pdf

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 2:53 PM

Will do , thanks

II/JG7_Moto Will do , thanks

PiNKSH!T•11/30/23, 3:04 PM

If flying helis in dcs don't get tricked by the setting called something like "No springs & force feedback" it's for no springs & no force feedback, it's got a few ppl so far, needs to be renamed

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 3:05 PM

Thanks, not helicopters, just warbirds

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Princess•11/30/23, 3:07 PM

The wait wasn't nearly as long as I thought is was going to be!
I'm really excited to try it when it arrives

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 3:41 PM

With regards of extensions, is it ok to use them with the Rhino?

Fierce_FireOP•11/30/23, 4:01 PM

Yes, but Ive heard 200mm is pushing it due to the strength

lolof1•11/30/23, 4:19 PM

@walmis

Hi Wallis ,With the Thrustmaster joys it’s good too with your VPforce ?

lolof1•11/30/23, 4:22 PM

No adaptatif with Thrustmaster joys ?

WhereNoLarkFlew•11/30/23, 4:41 PM

@walmis is production speeding up? Looks like you guys have been kicking out a lot of units lately, that’s awesome.

DofMan1234•11/30/23, 6:23 PM

I've just set up my Rhino on my DOF Reality H6 motion platform, and I needed an extension to bring it nearer without making it too much taller. Nothing seemed to fit the bill so I contacted Q4Rigs who 3D print them, and I'd previously bought one from them for my Virpil and I liked the quality. I sent them an email and they promptly printed a "special" for me, with a 50mm rearward extension and a 108mm lift. It arrived today and I've just fitted it and it's perfect for my setup.
This may look like a blatant plug, but I have no connection with them, other than being a twice satisfied customer

.......

Bob Bushman•11/30/23, 6:25 PM

Have been eyeing a system of theirs for swapping throttles.

MashedPotato•11/30/23, 6:29 PM

I can second their great service. Asked them for a custom setup on a not-theirs discord, had the product in hand less than a week later, including UK-US shipping

DofMan1234•11/30/23, 6:51 PM

I have a simpler quick change system on my motion platform, I have steel plates either side and in front of the seat, and all of my throttles, gearlevers, and joysticks have powerful neodym magnets underneath. I just drop them in place, and the magnetism is just strong enough to hold them firmly, yet easily removable when fully twisted sideways. Here's the underneath of the Rhino with the magnets fitted through the existing four corner holes. I also reinforced the base with a 6mm plywood base plate. The corners are otheriwse a bit vulnerable because of the "dovetail" slots where they interlock with the sides.

II/JG7_Moto With regards of extensions, is it ok to use them with the Rhino?

jc523•11/30/23, 8:23 PM

yes, but coming from the virpil mongoos cm2 base with the 200mm extension, I found that it was way too tall. Plus the range of motion of the Rhino is much bigger than the cm2, so I added the 15/15 physical limiter plates. I ended up going with the virpil z-extension and the height of that combined with the Rhino is pretty close to the cm2 and 200mm extension, plus the extension moved the grip closer to me.

I/JG7_Moto•11/30/23, 8:46 PM

Where do I get the limiter 15/15 plates? I find the range of motion too much on the Rhino

II/JG7_Moto Where do I get the limiter 15/15 plates? I find the range of motion too much on ...

Number481•11/30/23, 8:57 PM

https://discord.com/channels/965234441511383080/1092338475795238962 parametric configurator where you can download printable limiters for any throws that you want.. or you can order them from walmis if you don't have a printer or know anyone with a printer

TheLurk🌽•11/30/23, 11:27 PM

so how long does it usually take to hear from walmis about a slot number? i filled out the form november 1st for a rhino?

Bob Bushman•11/30/23, 11:27 PM

Pm the bot with "!info your email".

TheLurk🌽•11/30/23, 11:28 PM

oh jesus

TheLurk🌽•11/30/23, 11:30 PM

#798... ill be waiting a bit

Fr4Ged•11/30/23, 11:32 PM

Wow. That is 150 more reservations in two months.

Vulture•12/1/23, 3:51 AM

Everybody is gearing up for the F-4E. Which deserves/needs a Rhino!

radio_war•12/1/23, 4:52 AM

I'm sitting in low 900's. F-4e is going to be great.

VPforceBot•12/1/23, 7:22 AM

RHINO #0278 Has Shipped!

Rradio_war I'm sitting in low 900's. F-4e is going to be great.

Stryker990•12/1/23, 7:36 AM

Yikes and i thought my 450 were bad

VVulture Everybody is gearing up for the F-4E. Which deserves/needs a Rhino!

Bob Bushman•12/1/23, 10:16 AM

My brain just cant make friends with the apache trim it just doesnt work for me.
More precisely, the dcs implementation of that trim.
(And most dcs helicopters in general)

And knowing I'm on the list for a rhino, I'll probably just watch tv til it comes

I/JG7_Moto•12/1/23, 3:12 PM

Does the Rhino made stick forces stiffer when the speed of the airplane increases?

Fierce_FireOP•12/1/23, 3:14 PM

It should yes, if you enabled that in the configuration software

I/JG7_Moto•12/1/23, 3:16 PM

That was going to be my next question, which setting enables this?

II/JG7_Moto That was going to be my next question, which setting enables this?

Number481•12/1/23, 3:16 PM

DCS and IL2 have native FFB implementation which handles all of the dynamic stick forces. That specific functionality however is implemented in most or all of the warbird type aircraft for DCS.

II/JG7_Moto That was going to be my next question, which setting enables this?

Fierce_FireOP•12/1/23, 3:19 PM

Telemffb should add it for most aircraft in dcs

Fierce_FireOP•12/1/23, 3:20 PM

There might be a strength setting somewhere in the configurator, but I'm unsure which and can't check right now

Fierce_FireOP•12/1/23, 3:20 PM

If you hover the mouse over an option it should tell you what each setting does though

FFierce_Fire There might be a strength setting somewhere in the configurator, but I'm unsure ...

Number481•12/1/23, 3:22 PM

The "dynamic force with speed" is not part of TelemFFB for DCS.. that is handled %100 by each DCS modules own FFB implementation.

Fierce_FireOP•12/1/23, 3:26 PM

I stand corrected

I/JG7_Moto•12/1/23, 3:44 PM

Thanks , cant wait to try it, stick forces stiffen a lot with speed in real airplanes, and get mushy at slow speeds near stall.

WhereNoLarkFlew•12/1/23, 4:13 PM

Has anyone tried mounting the Rhino to the Monstertech office chair?