huh, I never thought about that. You might need to do some hacks to passthrough individual parts of

huh, I never thought about that. You might need to do some hacks to passthrough individual parts of the APU without the whole thing being passed through, but in theory maybe?

SSean (SuperRiderTH)huh, I never thought about that. You might need to do some hacks to passthrough ...

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 3:14 AM

The fsync kernel on testing has those patches

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 3:17 AM

Is the fsync kernel just the default on testing?

SSean (SuperRiderTH)Is the fsync kernel just the default on testing?

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 3:18 AM

Yep

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 3:18 AM

Neat. I like to mess with virtual machines, I will take a glance and see

CyberGlitterhoof•12/1/23, 3:21 AM

if you could pass control of the APU back and forth between the host and vm it might work okay

CyberGlitterhoof•12/1/23, 3:21 AM

I don't know of any way to do that though

CyberGlitterhoof•12/1/23, 3:22 AM

splitting up the APU might be possible? But it's already a pretty limited system so any performance losses would likely be profound

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 3:28 AM

I'll probably go with pinning 6 of the cores to be a cpu, 1 for the vm, 1 for IO handling. As long as it wants to behave and have the graphics side of things disconnect and reconnect without a hassle, passing through almost everything else shouldn't be too crazy. It is usually the GPU side of things that gives me a hassle with passthrough. I might even just pass through the wifi if that will also behave so I don't need to deal with linux wifi schnanigans through a windows environment.

Of course, this is all if it will work right in the first place lol. Step one is get a basic vm up and poke around.

EyeCantCU•12/1/23, 3:53 AM

NVIDIA images with kernel fsync are up in testing

bdface.•12/1/23, 3:56 AM

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EyeCantCU•12/1/23, 3:57 AM

Run rpm-ostree upgraderpm-ostree upgrade and reboot. Should be resolved

bdface.•12/1/23, 3:57 AM

upgrade, oh i was running update

EyeCantCU•12/1/23, 3:58 AM

Update = upgrade

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 4:10 AM

yay iommu

iommu was off in the bios, and amd_iommu=offamd_iommu=off was in the boot options so that was an additional step lol

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 4:20 AM

ayyyyyy, the acs override works

SSean (SuperRiderTH)yay iommu iommu was off in the bios, and `amd_iommu=off` was in the boot option...

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 4:21 AM

That's a steam deck thing

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 4:21 AM

Valve does the same in steam os

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 4:21 AM

I matched because why question it, easy to undo if you want it

matt_schwartz•12/1/23, 4:22 AM

Is bazzite pretty much ready for the OLED deck now aside from the necessary kernel patches?

Mmatt_schwartz Is bazzite pretty much ready for the OLED deck now aside from the necessary kern...

Kyle Gospo•12/1/23, 4:23 AM

Should be, yes

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 4:23 AM

huh, ujust enable-virtualizationujust enable-virtualization is gone? unless you don't ship it on deck or something like that

bsherman•12/1/23, 4:27 AM

Anyone running battle.net (StarCraft and StarCraft2 are my goal) via Bottles?

I can get Battle.net installed, but the login screen keeps dumping core

This is on a fresh Bazzite Gnome Desktop 39 install...

And Bottles is a flatpak of course

SpookySouls•12/1/23, 5:00 AM

So Windows and Bazzite cant both be used on the same system? Even if theyre on seperate drives? My boot option for Windows just keeps disappearing

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:01 AM

I have Windows and Bazzite on separate drives. Windows has never disappeared from GRUB

Bbsherman Anyone running battle.net (StarCraft and StarCraft2 are my goal) via Bottles? ...

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:04 AM

WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1 is needed

Ttermdisc `WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1` is needed

bsherman•12/1/23, 5:04 AM

giving that a try! thank you!

Bbsherman giving that a try! thank you!

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:08 AM

np. you may need to apply that env var prior to installation if this is not an existing one

Ttermdisc np. you may need to apply that env var prior to installation if this is not an e...

bsherman•12/1/23, 5:09 AM

wow, that works...

I edited the "Battle.net" "program" by changing it's launch options to include that as a prefix and it worked right away

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:10 AM

sweet

Ttermdisc `WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1` is needed

bsherman•12/1/23, 5:11 AM

thank you very much!

i'm feeling a bit frustrated I didn't find that on my own... but it looks like a new issue?

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:14 AM

yeah fresh with today's update

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:14 AM

and WOW release (i think?)

bsherman•12/1/23, 5:14 AM

i picked a great day to try to get back into StarCraft LOL

bsherman•12/1/23, 5:14 AM

i don't feel so bad now

SSpookySouls So Windows and Bazzite cant both be used on the same system? Even if theyre on s...

tryhardsoccermomswag•12/1/23, 5:23 AM

like termdisc, i also have it on a seperate drive. it does disappear in GRUB for me too, but usually i can get to it by going into the BIOS boot menu and selecting the drive that has Windows... but if windows is in the same drive idk if that will be an option

Ttermdisc `WINE_SIMULATE_WRITECOPY=1` is needed

Eeyore_Syndrome•12/1/23, 5:45 AM

That's so weird. I was playing wotlk classic today and got disconnected and couldn't relog because I was met with the error.

Was just super annoyed because it was working.... I'll try this and see if it fixes my install :0

EEeyore_Syndrome That's so weird. I was playing wotlk classic today and got disconnected and coul...

termdisc•12/1/23, 5:46 AM

The update just got pushed today. If you were running the previous version 14494, you could continue.

CCyberGlitterhoof Hmm, i don't know if this makes sense for the deck. Maybe? A method for a sing...

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:06 AM

@KyleGospo single gpu passthrough is full of more pitfalls than dual gpu passthrough (2 gpus on system)

the problem with it is that it is very system specific, the script has to be tailored to each system depending on what the user is running (this is however kinda solved with ublue assuming the user does not have a container running using the gpu or a layered program that does not close entirely by stopping the display manager)
there is even less systems that support single gpu passthrough than dual gpu passthrough
3D controllers cannot be passed to a VM, well it can but you will never get it to work as it relies on the main gpu to even function and VMs do not have access to that.
if anything is still using the gpu when the display manager is stopped, you at best get a black screen and need to restore the system through tty or you get a frozen system with a black screen
it doesnt really solve anything other than being a good party trick? unless youre a person that does a lot of OS testing (lets you rapidly test OSes without having to install them directly on the hardware but having access to your hardware)
intel is the only supported igpu for using in VMs but not the way you would expect since it will keep the host display active so you will need a different way to view the VM screen (spice will not work, not sure if looking-glass works for this method)
hooks for the single gpu passthrough has to be manually set up for every VM you want to do it on (unless you want to make it do it on every VM)

it would be a nightmare to support either way.
the vfio stuff we have in the justfile right now is stuff that is pretty easy to configure (yet people fail at it) and is pretty much set in stone.
if that for example in the future should be expanded to support passthrough with identical cards, it would require us building custom scripts into initramfs that is specially tailored to the users pci ids for their gpu that they want to passthrough.

SSean (SuperRiderTH)huh, `ujust enable-virtualization` is gone? unless you don't ship it on deck or ...

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:07 AM

its not part of the deck image as valve disables a lot of virtualization stuff for the deck as it can interfere with games

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:08 AM

if you enable it, bazzite-hardware-setup would just disable any virtualization related kargs again unless you run a custom image

SSpookySouls So Windows and Bazzite cant both be used on the same system? Even if theyre on s...

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:09 AM

ujust regenerate-grubujust regenerate-grub

HHikariKnight if you enable it, bazzite-hardware-setup would just disable any virtualization r...

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 7:10 AM

If that is the intention, then that doesn't work. I changed kargs and they persist

SSean (SuperRiderTH)If that is the intention, then that doesn't work. I changed kargs and they persi...

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:11 AM

it will happen when hw_ver gets bumped in bazzite
if you enabled iommu for example it will get turned off again next time bazzite tells it to run a full check again

Sean (SuperRiderTH)OP•12/1/23, 7:11 AM

Gotcha, so it is update related

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:12 AM

yeah

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:12 AM

it might have changed though let me check

HikariKnight•12/1/23, 7:13 AM

should in theory only happen on the deck, didnt back when i originally tried