Yi'm on nvidia so i dont want to use wayland just yet anyway
Yi have much less issues on my pc when i run xorg no matter the distro
Yfrom what i understand wayland is supposed to replace x though right?
Yeventually
IThe pressure's mounting right now with several distros switching to it as the primary layer.
Though it seems to have gotten mired down in security overdesign vs practical upgrade of x
Though it seems to have gotten mired down in security overdesign vs practical upgrade of x
YWhat makes you say this? -----> Though it seems to have gotten mired down in security overdesign vs practical upgrade of x
Y@doug.dimmadome
IThings like windows being able to request their own position or position relative to eachother is the hot topic right now
Pwayland aims for security by default.
Yis there a reason you have such a strong prefrence?
IWhich, I mean, fine
IBut also usability > inter-window security for most people
Ywell excuse my ignorance but wtf is inter-window security?
IAnyway, not going to start a spicy discussion about it or anything, it's just moving carefully and there's plenty of reasons to do that
Yyes sir
Ythats why i run x
Yits never failed me even in gaming so i'm not going to switch from it knowingly for no reason. i cant say that about wayland though..... i've never owned anything but nvidia cards
ISeveral important reasons to want to use it in multimonitor, media, and gaming setups, like different refresh rates, scaling ratios, and hdr.
Ywait
Yis that why funny shit happens when i try to set my other screen over 60hz?
Iprobably
Ywho wow thats news to me lol
PHDR + multimonitor
Yit doesnt support hdr?
Ythats lame
Pxorg is literally ancient
IPeople who have maintained X/org have come to the point where it's practically impossible to fix problems like this
Y......... and thats what i like. its old and just works?
Pmany of the things xorg existed to do are now defunct and irrelevant
Pyet they're still part of that chain so, pointless overhead
Yoooooh. is it do to the age of it?
Pfrom a bygone era
I... Unless you want hdr or different refresh rates or differential scaling, etc
II'm not going to have in depth answers for you tbh, short version it's too big and not designed for things that literally didn't exist when it was made/developed for most of its life
Ptl;dr is it's too old and a replacement was long overdue
INot everything old has to be replaced, but this is one of those cases by almost all accounts
IThe only question is getting wayland to the point where it can replace it
Pdidn't say old = needs replacement
Pjust that it's too old
IYea
KHDR will be the push
KSince X has zero support for it
Kand likely never will
Yyeah hdr is pretty important ngl.....
Kthat and VRR with multi-monitor setups
PVRR is LOVE
IOf course flatpak is also having some.. maturation pains that happen to overlap a lot, too
PVRR is LIFE
Ylike what?
ISimilar angle of security issues. Things like letting flatpak'd password managers interact with flatpak'd browsers, copy-paste, native file browser usage, etc.
