VI think it's a pre-installed flatpak
VMight just be on newly installed systems
H
V@cyber.glitterhoof
Jnvtop comes from the base images
CI know how to remove flatpaks
CI'm just saying 4 process trackers is too many
VAh, that makes sense
Jbtop is to match steamos, but those are cli
VAnd the GNOME/KDE ones come from the respective DE's
VWe could remove one but like, eh
Cespecially on non-steamdeck versions of bazzite
JI'll remove the gnome one in bluefin but I wanted to shake out mission control for a while and wanted to keep a backup so I haven't removed it yet
Juntil there's more reliable upstream ways to ensure flatpaks are installed I'm fine keeping backups on the image, I do hide the .desktop files though
VI mean, I guess removing the DE-specific process trackers would be ok but the others have their own justifications.
VCould maybe remove btop on nvidia, but it'd be creating a discrepancy between Bazzite and SteamOS which isn't the goal
TGNOME images preinstall it
Hah
VKDE too
VI'm fairly certain
Tit does not
TVHuh, I must have installed it then
TI did too on my KDE setup. Favorite system monitor application
VAlso, would adding Easy Effects to bazzite portal's music section be something anybody else is interested in?
VIt's a Pipewire EQ program.
TIt's in utilities iirc in the portal
VAh it is
Tshould it be in music? i think there's only music clients in there though
VThere are, but I do think where it is fits well
Tthere's a lot of stuff under utilities/system tools
VIt might make more sense in music, not sure
Hit is a utility though
VIt's where I instinctively looked
Hmake a new section, sound utilities
H
Tlol
VI mean, by Bazzite's definition so is VLC.
Hwhat is vlc not at this point 
RIs :testing for OLED currently up to date with kernel modules/configs from stock Steam OS in regards to audio system/handling?
I reinstalled stock Steam OS today on my OLED in order to see whether my issues with distorted audio are related strictly to Bazzite or it is a Valve's issue.
Well, it turns out audio is 100% fine on stock Steam OS.
Now I reinstalled back stock Bazzite (:testing branch rebase + setup with Bazzite portal) and my audio issues are once again back - occasional crackling and from very little to frequent audio stutters/distortions (imagine if somebody had 'playback speed' knob and would turn it down below 100% by a random value for a randomised fraction of second every ~second). Additional strange thing is that for most games it seems 'mostly' fine (although still happens if you listen carefully to the speakers) - however, it is very noticeable in rhythm games, when almost immediately you can notice that audio goes out of sync with prompts on the screen (due to those issues) - and the longer stage goes, the more out of sync it gets. This makes rhythm games unplayable on Bazzite whereas it's fine on stock SteamOS.
I reinstalled stock Steam OS today on my OLED in order to see whether my issues with distorted audio are related strictly to Bazzite or it is a Valve's issue.
Well, it turns out audio is 100% fine on stock Steam OS.
Now I reinstalled back stock Bazzite (:testing branch rebase + setup with Bazzite portal) and my audio issues are once again back - occasional crackling and from very little to frequent audio stutters/distortions (imagine if somebody had 'playback speed' knob and would turn it down below 100% by a random value for a randomised fraction of second every ~second). Additional strange thing is that for most games it seems 'mostly' fine (although still happens if you listen carefully to the speakers) - however, it is very noticeable in rhythm games, when almost immediately you can notice that audio goes out of sync with prompts on the screen (due to those issues) - and the longer stage goes, the more out of sync it gets. This makes rhythm games unplayable on Bazzite whereas it's fine on stock SteamOS.
RI apologise for bugging ppl again with this, but this issue is really annoying me, seems to happen only on Bazzite itself and I can't seem to find any other person which would report such issue (maybe I haven't searched well enough)
KKernel and configs are 1:1, there may be some pipewire changes needed still
KI have the crackling audio on resume from sleep, but no issues with growing delays
RAre pipewire/wireplumber configs from /usr/share (which, from what I understand, are config templates) show values which are default when no system/user config is present?
KRight
RBecause if so, then indeed there are some differences from what I looken into between Steam Os from today and Bazzite
RThough it's a bit suprising, since if https://forum.manjaro.org/t/howto-troubleshoot-crackling-in-pipewire/82442 is to be believed, changes from valve's configs should actually make issues (if they happen) worse.
Manjaro Linux Forum
Difficulty: ★★☆☆☆ This tutorial will help you get rid of crackling/popping issues in PipeWire and PipeWire-Pulse, as well as replace PulseAudio with PipeWire. Note: This guide was written for pipewire with pipewire-media-session, not wireplumber, if you have wireplumber installed some of the configs will be at different locations, under differ...
RI'll gather those config templates from both and try to diff them to see differences.
JOn bazzite-deck-gnome, or any -gnome image for that matter, Discover Overlay will not start due to GNOME mutter not supporting the Layered Shell protocol used by
discover-overlay
KThere's an optional work around that will launch it anyway, but it's a default disabled for the time being
