Another weird question from me - does /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/wine.conf ship by de

Another weird question from me - does /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/wine.conf ship by default with pipewire-pulse package or it was added manually by Bazzite devs?

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:22 PM

Because it's the root cause of all of my issues with audio stutters/lags/distortions
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RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:23 PM

It has override for wine anything with pulse.min.req and pulse.min.quantum as 1024/48000

BBearFOX Can confirm no <60HZ wibbly issues on LCD deck now. Thanks for the quick fix all

Ryan•12/27/23, 10:23 PM

Yeah it's working even with the OC now

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:24 PM

Changing both to 128/48000 fixed every audio issues I had letsfuckinggo

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:28 PM

Unless there are any downsides to it (other than nebulous 'higher CPU usage'), I'd suggest to ship ootb with both of those values set to 128/48000

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:30 PM

At the very least, that's what I noticed stock SteamOS on OLED ships with (based on output of pw-toppw-top and how much quantum is assigned to run WINE apps/games).

RRaltay Changing both to 128/48000 fixed every audio issues I had <:letsfuckinggo:998580...

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:32 PM

Is this an issue with wine only? I saw some people use this to reduce audio latency overall.

RRaltay Another weird question from me - does /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/...

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 10:34 PM

hmm not there for me on deck :latest image, but also has not updated today so idk if it came would have come with the newest build

HHikariKnight hmm not there for me on deck :latest image, but also has not updated today so id...

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:36 PM

:testing

:testing

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:36 PM

(running on OLED)

RRaltay `:testing`

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 10:36 PM

ahh that makes sense then so its new

RRaltay Changing both to 128/48000 fixed every audio issues I had <:letsfuckinggo:998580...

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 10:41 PM

Interesting, I'll see about adjusting this

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 10:41 PM

It's needed on OLED to fix audio

Kyle Gospo•12/27/23, 10:41 PM

Without it it's a mess

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 10:47 PM

hopefully 128/48000 wont make audio a mess on other devices then

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:47 PM

would be fine

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:48 PM

pipewire's default of 32/48000 as min quant is extraordinairily low

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:48 PM

0.66ms of buffer

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:48 PM

2.66ms at 128/48000 is still quite small and basically imperceptible delay to non-musicians

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 10:49 PM

i wouldnt notice for sure

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:50 PM

for reference most windows audio drivers can't even get below 10ms and no one's complaining there (and the audio professionals are all using ASIO specifying the crazy low buffer setups manually)

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 10:50 PM

this is how much of an audiophile i am
sound: yessound: yes

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:50 PM

how to set that as default though?

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:51 PM

I just read PIPEWIRE_QUANTUM & PIPEWIRE_LATENCY is just for jack applications & Fedora doesn't have pipewire-jack

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:51 PM

pipewire supports breaking up the config into as fine of chunks as you need in XDG config spec location

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:51 PM

haven't personally had to touch it since it was at version 0.3.3 or something so a couple years back

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:52 PM

but it is quite intuitive, don't think the devs would have any issue modifying it globally (or just adding it to the setup for deck images)

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:52 PM

I would test this in my image for sure

Ffiftydinar I just read PIPEWIRE_QUANTUM & PIPEWIRE_LATENCY is just for jack applications & ...

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:53 PM

for clarification PIPEWIRE_LATENCY works with alsa, jack, and pipewire

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:53 PM

it requests specific values, i think the issue here is more with the minimum allowed

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:53 PM

It doesn't work for Firefox flatpak for me
it shows 2048 quantum

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:53 PM

some applications will request "the lowest i can get!" and that can cause issues

Ffiftydinar It doesn't work for Firefox flatpak for me it shows 2048 quantum

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:54 PM

firefox is using pulseaudio

Ppuella aeternis firefox is using pulseaudio

fiftydinar•12/27/23, 10:54 PM

makes sense

Ffiftydinar how to set that as default though?

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:54 PM

copy /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/wine.conf to ~/.config/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/
Open file there and change both values from 1024/48000 to 128/48000.
systemctl restart --user pipewire pipewire-pulse.service wireplumber.servicesystemctl restart --user pipewire pipewire-pulse.service wireplumber.service

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:55 PM

wait, the buffer is too large?

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:55 PM

that's a first in my entire life LOL

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:56 PM

you can remove a lot of that config file after copying it over basically just leaving the skeleton of changes you actually make

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:56 PM

module you're changing & the changes made

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:58 PM

i had a peek in /usr/usr, i'm guessing that file has only been added for deck images

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:58 PM

:testing

:testing

, perhaps

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:58 PM

It's on

:testing

:testing

only currently suppossedly

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 10:59 PM

mhm

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 10:59 PM

Pipewire on :latest is also 1.0.0?

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 11:00 PM

yes, 1.0, just checked

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 11:00 PM

ah the file is already as fragmented as it can be. good stuff

RaltayOP•12/27/23, 11:00 PM

So most probably that file hasn't shipped with package but was added explicitly there.

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 11:01 PM

it has been added by the bazzite devs, not something that comes with pipewire normally

HikariKnight•12/27/23, 11:01 PM

its here if you want it
https://github.com/ublue-os/bazzite/blob/testing/system_files/desktop/shared/usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/wine.conf

GitHub

bazzite/system_files/desktop/shared/usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pul...

Bazzite is an OCI image that serves as an alternative operating system for the Steam Deck, and a ready-to-game SteamOS-like for desktop computers, living room home theater PCs, and numerous other h...

puella aeternis•12/27/23, 11:02 PM

1024 is an absolutely huge minimum so it's unsurprising that had some negative consequences

Another weird question from me - does /usr/share/pipewire/pipewire-pulse.conf.d/wine.conf ship by de

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