Outer Worlds really bad FPS and blurry textures

So Epic gave this away for free, though i'd give it a try, but, even on the lowest settings, the game is unplayable, stuttering at around 5 FPS or so (can't see the FPS counter, it won't render), and the textures don't seem to load on any setting, they're just as blurry on low as they're on high which i thought it was weird.

I have an Nvidia 1030 3GB which i know isn't the best for this type of game, but youtube benchmarks seem to suggest i should be able to run this pretty normally on medium.
https://youtu.be/5xAZazGmJxY?si=_rOiPkYTO75L2f47

Here's how it looks on high:
https://imgur.com/a/xVeVkvi

I tried WIne-GE-latest, Proton8, and Proton-GE-8.25, same results every time.

Uploaded the .txt log to this post, it's a bit long.

Is this just my GPU being too bad or something Linux related i can fix?

Ryzen 5 5600g (iGPU disabled in UEFI)
32GB DDR4 3200 Mhz
Nvidia 1060 3GB driver version 545.29.06-7
Arch Linux Gnome X11

OuterWorlds.txt993.31KB

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The Outer Worlds - GTX 1060 3gb | i5 8400 | 16GB | 1080p Low - Ultr...

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Msi Geforce GTX 1060 3072Mb 192 bit
VIPER DUAL channel 16 GB
be quiet! SYSTEM POWER 9 500W
Xilence M403
SSD Kingston A400 256GB
SSD Samsung 860 EVO 500gb
HDD WD 2tb
OC: Windows 10 PRO

Configuration PC:
i5-3570 3.4GHz / 3.8GHz
12Gb RAM
FSP 400 W
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dry-scarlet•12/27/23, 5:05 AM

a few weird issues.. if you dont have feral game mode, you shouldnt turn it on.. if you want to use it you nave to install it.. atm it doesnt look like you have feral game mode.

Similarly despite you having dxvk enabled, i dont see vulkan starting up.

I'd ensure your nvidia drivers and vulkan stuff is all set up properly for your OS.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/27/23, 7:32 PM

I did install game mode though.
And Steam games work normally, I did all the stuff required to get the drivers working.

I'll double check and write back, but so far, this is the only game with issues.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/27/23, 11:40 PM

Ok, a bit of a delay, but i've checked:

For Nvidia card:
Kernel driver in use: nvidia
So it's set up properly, it's not nouveau.

pacman -Qs nvidia:
local/egl-wayland 2:1.1.13-1
EGLStream-based Wayland external platform
local/ffnvcodec-headers 12.1.14.0-1
FFmpeg version of headers required to interface with Nvidias codec APIs
local/lib32-libvdpau 1.5-2
Nvidia VDPAU library
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 545.29.06-1
NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/libvdpau 1.5-2
Nvidia VDPAU library
local/libxnvctrl 545.29.06-1
NVIDIA NV-CONTROL X extension
local/nvidia 545.29.06-7
NVIDIA drivers for linux
local/nvidia-settings 545.29.06-1
Tool for configuring the NVIDIA graphics driver
local/nvidia-utils 545.29.06-1
NVIDIA drivers utilities

pacman -Qs vulkan:
local/lib32-nvidia-utils 545.29.06-1
NVIDIA drivers utilities (32-bit)
local/lib32-vulkan-icd-loader 1.3.274-1
Vulkan Installable Client Driver (ICD) Loader (32-bit)
local/nvidia-utils 545.29.06-1
NVIDIA drivers utilities
local/spirv-tools 2023.5-1 (vulkan-devel)
API and commands for processing SPIR-V modules
local/vkd3d 1.10-1
Direct3D 12 to Vulkan translation library By WineHQ
local/vulkan-headers 1:1.3.274-1 (vulkan-devel)
Vulkan header files
local/vulkan-icd-loader 1.3.274-1
Vulkan Installable Client Driver (ICD) Loader

I think i have all i need...
Is there anything that's missing?

wet-aqua•12/28/23, 12:07 AM

the game uses dx12 right?

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 12:12 AM

I think so. Why?

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 1:04 AM

Enable vkd3d for x12 and dxvk for x9-11

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 1:08 AM

According to pcgaming wiki it is x11. Also outer worlds is known for not to be polished performance vise.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:14 AM

Aren't they enabled by defalut in proton? Also, polished performance wise is one thing, having liquified textures on any detail settings is another. Something's weird about this.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:18 AM

For instance - this is how it looks on High. There's definitely something wrong here, but i cant' figure out what.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:18 AM

Some of the textures, like those rocks are loaded, but everything else looks like the textureless default mesh or something.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:19 AM

Look at the floor too, the lines look like the gradient is not working or something?

Bbrilliant-lime According to pcgaming wiki it is x11. Also outer worlds is known for not to be p...

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 1:23 AM

The remaster (The Outer Worlds: Spacer's Choice Edition) is d3d12. vkd3d-proton needs dxvk either way so that should also be enabled.

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 1:23 AM

I see in the log both are running though so that is fine.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:31 AM

Yeah, it's weird... Maybe it's the game, but that youtube video i linked suggests it should run just fine.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:32 AM

I mean, in regards to my hardware at least.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:32 AM

Tried Proton Experimental as well. Still the same.

wet-aqua•12/28/23, 1:36 AM

probably a vram and nvidia problem combined

wet-aqua•12/28/23, 1:36 AM

vkd3d-proton on pascal is trash and vkd3d-proton uses a little bit more vram than native d3d12

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:37 AM

Hmm, well if it's either of those, then i guess i'm out of luck. Can't do anything about the Nvidia driver and i don't have another card lol.

wet-aqua•12/28/23, 1:38 AM

you can buy a card like the rx 580 if ur interested in buying something, otherwise you are out of luck

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:40 AM

Can't buy anything right now sadly, but yeah... Not the first Nvidia specific issue i've had on linux. When i can, i'm definitely not buying an Nvidia card. This one i "inherited" from another system so that's why i use it, it was better than my R7 260x. Other than that, nothing but problems with it.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 1:41 AM

I still have Windows on dual boot for Affinity programs, i'll try installing it on Windows to see if it's the game or Nvidia linux drivers.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 4:03 AM

I marked this as unsolvable as it seems there's nothing i can do with my current hardware.

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 12:22 PM

Never haf problems with nvidia cards on linux. Probably reinstall thr nvidia drivers. Make sure system packages are up to date

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 12:23 PM

Can you try wine-ge with dxvk and vkd3d enabled. Also enable use system libraries

dry-scarlet•12/28/23, 1:16 PM

3 GB gpu and 62704.249:0594:0598:info:vkd3d-proton:dxgi_vk_swap_chain_init: Creating swapchain (2560 x 1440)62704.249:0594:0598:info:vkd3d-proton:dxgi_vk_swap_chain_init: Creating swapchain (2560 x 1440) 1440p?

dry-scarlet•12/28/23, 1:29 PM

Sounds rough

Ddry-scarlet 3 GB gpu and `62704.249:0594:0598:info:vkd3d-proton:dxgi_vk_swap_chain_init: Cre...

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 2:21 PM

I tried all the resolutions, even on 720p it looks like that and low FPS. This is just the instance i took the log from.

Bbrilliant-lime Never haf problems with nvidia cards on linux. Probably reinstall thr nvidia dri...

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 2:24 PM

I've had nothing BUT problems with Nvidia lol. Wayland is unusable for me, black flickering bars across the screen when gaming, artefacts when resming from sleep lol.
Which one do you have? I heard Pascal chips are getting left in the dirt, and that Nvidia is focusing their drivers on the RTX line of cards.

But everything is up to date, no need to reinstall the driver since it's updating often (Arch, it gets packages often), the kernel is being rebuilt with each update as well.

I did try wine-ge, same thing sadly. Oh well... Win some, lose some i guess.

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 2:25 PM

I use only distros based on debian. Pop_os currently. Have a rtx 2060 super

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 2:25 PM

Ah yes, the driver is supposed to be better on an RTX chip. I guess they're phasing out GTX lol.

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 2:26 PM

Could be yes

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 2:26 PM

Still, it works almost everywhere else so i'm not complaining too much. Prey and this game are about the only ones that didn't work.

brilliant-lime•12/28/23, 2:27 PM

Maybe some winetricks libs are missing?

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 2:29 PM

I checked, and even installed some, nothing seems missing. Besides, i don't know what missing lib could cause textures to not load. This is either a game problem with GPU memory (i only have 3GB, maybe it needs more), or it's some Proton problem with Nvidia maybe, idk...

I deleted the game, i won't be trying anything more. I'll probably just install it on my Windows partition. If it's not working there either, then it's the game or my GPU being too low.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:32 PM

Well, this is Outer Worlds on Windows. The texture bug is something with the game/GPU it seems, but unlike Linux, i got 60+ FPS on WIndows, so the low FPS was i guess Linux related.

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ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:42 PM

Hmm, googling a bit, i can't seem to find what's causing this issue, or how to fix it.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:42 PM

Oh well, i tried...

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:42 PM

The game was free.

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 3:43 PM

Without knowing the specifics in this case here Nvidia usually doesn't fare as well performance wise with vkd3d-proton versus native d3d12 Windows. And Pascal GPUs are usually worse on top.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:43 PM

Yeah, that was probably the cause of the low FPS, but the texture bug is the game's fault it seems.

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:44 PM

Looks just as messed up on Windows as it did on Linux, but with better FPS.

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 3:47 PM

I don't know the technicals of the Nvidia performance status but i think it's some of their implementation details (driver?) that are less favorable with how vkd3d-proton works compared to something like amd.
Tho for an actual proper answer I'd have to ask the devs

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 3:47 PM

Though things have and are being tried to try and help the issue

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:48 PM

You mean the game devs or Nvidia driver devs?

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 3:48 PM

vkd3d-proton devs

dry-scarlet•12/28/23, 3:49 PM

I used GTX 1050 for years. No hope with Pascal+vkd3d-proton combo

ordinary-sapphireOP•12/28/23, 3:49 PM

Ah. But isn't Nvidia the ones that should be implementing vkd3d, not the other way around?

I don't know how this works though...

near-sapphire•12/28/23, 3:49 PM

Ye but Nvidia in general have some issues in the performance alley. Though yes Pascal is extra bad

dry-scarlet•12/28/23, 3:49 PM

Nope, NV only does Vulkan driver, not the layer itself

Outer Worlds really bad FPS and blurry textures

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