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Valerie
I imagine if some of the weird issues didn't happen with distrobox, it'd still use it
I imagine if some of the weird issues didn
't happen with distrobox
, it
'd still use it
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:50 AM
Soo why bazzite
-arch
?
V
Valerie
I imagine if some of the weird issues didn't happen with distrobox, it'd still u...
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
Less weird issues
, more consistency and supporting HDR and Wayland faster
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Darahaas
Who uses containers for serious gaming <:thonk:1135464817373749269>
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
Valve develop steamlinuxruntime that is basically containers for gaming
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Darahaas
Soo why bazzite-arch ?
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:51 AM
newer libraries and dependencies for gaming
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Fedora is up to date right
?
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Darahaas
Fedora is up to date right ?
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Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Yes
, but you could use a git build of Mesa in a container and keep stable on your main system
, for instance
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Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:52 AM
Containers are very powerful
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:54 AM
Can I use Nvidia drivers from arch container to game
?
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Darahaas
Can I use Nvidia drivers from arch container to game ?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:55 AM
That you can
't
, it
'll use the drivers on your host
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Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:55 AM
Closed source driver moment
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Yes but you need a matching kernel module
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Even if the version is slightly different
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dreamyuki
Yes but you need a matching kernel module
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
What if nvidia
-dkms
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:56 AM
Nope you can
't use kernel module with container
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:57 AM
Soo why bazzite is based on fedora and why not on arch
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Darahaas
Soo why bazzite is based on fedora and why not on arch
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Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
No ostree on arch
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
Bazzite is primarily interested in OSTree
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
and OCI image
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:58 AM
I see
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
Creating a distro from fedora ostree desktop is super easy
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
Can
't we port ostree to arch
?
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Kyle Gospo
No ostree on arch
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 5:59 AM
well there were experiments to do arch ostree but they were abandonded long ago
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Darahaas
Can't we port ostree to arch ?
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Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Technically yes
, but that
'd take a lot of effort and is DEFINITELY outside of the scope of this project
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Also there is no pacman
-ostree on arch
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Darahaas
Can't we port ostree to arch ?
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Sure
, but why do that when it
's here today and works perfectly
K
Kyle Gospo
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
It
's not like we
're getting a performance benefit out of using arch
, Fedora is at most a couple weeks behind and gets extra stability from that
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dreamyuki
Also there is no pacman-ostree on arch
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
technically it would be xz
.tar
-ostree
. but yeah
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Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:00 AM
Off topic
, but what do you guys think of onlyoffice
?
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
I mean
, I
'm not against fedora
.
.
.but tbh
.
.
.arch community and wiki is quite remarkable
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
then use arch
H
heri
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
this is not arch
H
heri
then use arch
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
I
'm using arch container on bazzite
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
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Darahaas
I mean, I'm not against fedora...but tbh...arch community and wiki is quite rema...
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Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:01 AM
The Arch wiki is kind of just a Linux wiki if you can use any inference
V
Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:02 AM
Same for debian
, fedora
, NixOS
, whatever
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:02 AM
True
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:02 AM
Sometimes the directories are a bit different that
's it
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 6:02 AM
The other distro using ostree rn is EndlessOS and GNOME OS if you consider it a distro
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:05 AM
I kind of used many distros
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Darahaas
•
12/29/23, 6:05 AM
But bazzite surprised me
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dreamyuki
•
12/29/23, 6:06 AM
Well if bootc project can boot into another OCI image beside fedora
/centos
, maybe bazzite can use archlinux as base
https://github.com/containers/bootc
GitHub
GitHub - containers/bootc: Boot and upgrade via container images
Boot and upgrade via container images
. Contribute to containers
/bootc development by creating an account on GitHub
.
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Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:06 AM
Getting used to rpm
-ostree and fedora atomic
-based systems is weird
V
Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:06 AM
But I used to use arch
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Valerie
OP
•
12/29/23, 6:06 AM
not gone back
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:54 AM
@KyleGospo HDR patches are a mess on testing
.
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:54 AM
My monitor
"claim
" to be HDR compatible
, but it really isn
't
. On hotplug however the Deck forces HDR on regardless of my settings
.
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:55 AM
And fuck up amdgpu completely
, today I
've also seen nice random corruption patterns scrolling through the display and wrong color displayed
.
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:56 AM
The only fix is to let the Deck boot up from fresh with the monitor plugged in
.
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:56 AM
Then it works just fine
.
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RodoMa92
•
12/29/23, 9:56 AM
I would not really include them until they are actually stable
, but that
's just me speaking
.
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