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protestant-coral
Rebel Galaxy Outlaw is great but system crashes frequently requiring reboot
The crashes happen at various appearing random places in the game, when docking, after autopilot disengage and arriving at coordinates, or after landing. Environment: Debian 12, Wayland, Vulkan, RADV, heroic 2.12 Flatpak install, no EOS overlay, no autosave sync, DXVK enabled.
20 Replies
other-emerald•2y ago
everything looks fine other than D3D11Device::CreateShaderModule: Class linkage not supported
that's unrelated to drivers, probably means that it's fine and a non-issue
did you check dmesg?
is it a GPU reset?
does your entire screen go black and then you can't control anything?
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
In the launcher when turning everything off or to the minimum setting it seems to work a little LOT better and doesn't crash my entire system, just crashes the DD game now rarely. Here is the log from the last crash - not sure it captures it. Before it would freeze the screen and all input to my computer. Nothing would work in those cases.
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
I will enable crash kernel dumps and investigate
other-emerald•2y ago
might be a vram problem
wow 3G of vram in 2013 is impressive
omg, it's a super beefy gpu and it only came in mac pros...
damn you rocking hardware I didn't know even existed
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
yeah that looks like one of those trashcan macs
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
picked it up for $600 on OfferUp can't beat an old Apple especially those that have a terrible reputation! Very good price.
So I have been trying in vain to create kernel dumps and it will simply not generate the file in the /var/crash folder (or anywhere else) with everything setup properly and kdump configured and running properly. Some process must be taking over before the kdump process can start or complete that blocks it from happening altogether. So not sure I will be able to hunt down the actual crash unfortunately.
other-emerald•2y ago
"autoInstallDxvkNvapi": trueyou may want to disable this because you don't have an Nvidia GPU
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
hi are you talking about the check box "Auto Install/Update DXVK-NVAPI on prefix" and uncheck?
genetic-orange•2y ago
yes, that's the option
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
Ok thanks, I unselected the option. No changes as far as I noticed, still the occasional crash that takes my system down (all launcher options at minimum or unselected). Crossing my fingers future Wine 9.0 integration in Heroic may make this more robust due to improved Wayland, Vulkan etc support.
other-emerald•2y ago
you can use wine 9.0 right now lol
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
but how would I download and use it with Heroic?
it just says Wine-GE latest and uses version 8 as far as I can see
other-emerald•2y ago
you would have to manually download it
but you can use it, it's just not well integrated since proton 9 hasn't been released yet
protestant-coralOP•2y ago
by the way do you know how to copy paste in this Discord system?
stupid question but doesn't work for me
I found the heroic wine folder so I assume i can copy in Wine 9 and see if heroic detects it /.var/app/com.heroicgameslauncer.hgl/config/heroic/tools/wine
genetic-orange•2y ago
if you have wine 9 installed on your system you can use it without copying it in, but GE hasn't released their version yet
foreign-sapphire•2y ago
i mean if your OS has latest wine staging installing that would cause heroic to pick itup
genetic-orange•2y ago
i'm not sure that debian has released wine 9 yet, not even arch has updated the repos
protestant-coralOP•17mo ago
Yeah the default for Debian 12 is Wine 8 repack 4. I am not sure what the difference is between Wine, and Wine-GE-Proton, so I will just wait :)!
I looked at the wine folder and comparing wine 9.0 installation files and binaries they are very different then what heroic is using so holding off there.
Ok I figured out that disabling DXVK on prefix pretty much stops all crashes, the problem disabling DXVK is that in Rebel Galaxy Outlaw the brightness drops way down, so it is hard to actually see the asteroids for example, unless they are directly illuminated by the sun.
I installed Wine 9.0 using the wine install guide for debian to use their repository and in Heroic said preferred to use Systems Settings, however not sure that automatically uses my installed system Wine or something else, either way it did not stop the crashes with DXVK enabled.
genetic-orange•17mo ago
It doesn't use that wine version, you need to change it in the game's settings as well
protestant-coralOP•17mo ago
my game prefixes are in /home/games/heroic/prefixes/default/Revel Galaxy Outlaw
and my Wine 9 is installed in /opt/wine-stable/bin or /opt/wine-stable/lib
not sure i have found the config file to point it to wine-stable
and game is installed in /home/games/heroic/RebelGalaxyOutlaw
I tried to symlink the /home/.config/heroic/tools/wine to the /opt.. wine folder but no cigar