I don't fly the F14, but the P-51D... firing up that engine and feeling the stick shake and come to
I don't fly the F14, but the P-51D... firing up that engine and feeling the stick shake and come to life... it's a game changer.
SJust instantly feeling CONNECTED to the plane, like it didnt just feel like a spring. And then the wing buffet in a turn and being able to actually turn without excessive G because i can feel where the limits for the plane are
BTo me the biggest "aha" was trim.
With a spring stick you pull, guess at trim, release a little, guess again and release a little repeat.
With this you just put the stick where it needs be, trim. It stops fighting and the pressure just eases up, keep the stick where it's needed and when your trimmed it stays there.
No need for guessing, just one move and done.
With a spring stick you pull, guess at trim, release a little, guess again and release a little repeat.
With this you just put the stick where it needs be, trim. It stops fighting and the pressure just eases up, keep the stick where it's needed and when your trimmed it stays there.
No need for guessing, just one move and done.
TI have a clutch/spingless base for my stick, and the autohover modes with the apache are a nightmare compared to a normal spring with trimming ... how does the VPForce handle it?
RHave you tried spins from high altitude?
FWhen you hold trim release, there are no spring forces acting on the stick, and when you release the trim release button that position of the stick becomes the new spring center. This helps immensely with flying as you can use the stick as if it is springless when maneuvering but trim and do something else when flying long distances.
FAttitude trim also allows me to get a 100% stable hover within max 1 minute of getting lower than 20kts airspeed, and just a few seconds when in the 10kts range
FAdmittedly I am comparing a ~40cm extension to vkb gladiator so your improvements may vary
B
FNote here that I made my own system with max motors, but you should get the same force with between 10 and 20cm additional extension, keep in mind the rhino feels like it has 10cm built in
BI don't feel the need for an extension, just wish it was 10cm closer
FSounds like you need Virpil z extension or 3d print
FBenefit of my insane extension is it wraps around my chair so I don't need a cut out
FI do wanna try and reduce it a little bit, see what this monster can really do
BWas tempted to try the z extension, but so far gotten most of the way with just a cushion
Twhen it's 're-centred' as it were when you force trim, is there a way to have a small deadzone around the 'new' centre? I've found that when I force trim with my clutch-nospring Virpil CM3 base, the autohover mode on the apache just doesnt work. I think there are minute movements still being detected and it cant cancel them out or something
Fit has a small motor deadzone (the axis is fully functional, the spring force is just very light) out of the box, which is adjustable
FI will probably increase the force a little bit myself but with the rhino it might be different
Tgotcha. Im something like #700 in the queue, so I'll find out myself at some point!
Fhave fun when you get it! itll be great
WThere's also adaptive recentering feature which tries to minimize error from the trim center
FThanks @adam1220.... that's all I needed to hear! @TorTorden... realistic trim would definitely take the realism up a few notches, thanks! Now what to do with the Mongoos. Didn't someone convert theirs into a collective? 
TThe trim and the engine rumble for sure. But for me, it was during a hectic moment defending an IR missile, fighting with the stick as I pull back, then the missile hits, the stick snaps violently, then dead stick. It was just amazing...
F@Tinman... that's just too cool, thanks! How violent is the stick movement? Enough to rip it out of your hands or just a significant jolt? I imagine that can be changed however you want it.
TI set the effects to be higher, you can definitely tune it to your liking. It rip off my hands and almost hit my leg. You really do want to set it up properly, or else them jewels be crushed... lol
YMine us still in transit i wonder how hot it gets I'm considering to mount it below my armchair and it will be closed box ...
TI've seen mine hit 50c, but it's fine. I've asked Walmis twice and he assured me its all good. Far from the limit and for our uses, shouldn't hit the limit.
Fiirc 70 or 80 is closer to the limit so you're fine
Rcurious
BIt might start loosing strength (gradually) at 70-80c, but actually harmful heat is even higher.
Rwhen ordering a rhino is there only 1 motor you choose from
Ror does it let you pick which ones, for more or less strength etc
BThe rhino is a completed unit, you only get to choose options like throw limiters and adapters.
BThe various motors are for diy kits
Rah i see
Rlooks like it has 11lbs at the base
Rof force
BThe rhino itself is using two of the 'weaker' motor kits, but its far far from weak
RI was wondering if its possible to mod it at least up to 20 or even 30lbs at the base
BThe bigger ones are for differing use cases, for example for pedals you can use a larger motor cause your legs are stronger.
BBetter to start with a diy kit at that point as you likely snap any of the 3d printed parts.
Ryeah diy is too much cobbling with no tools
RGuess I'll be stuck with the weak motors
BI so far have not found anything missing, it is the strongest stick ive ever owned.
Rwell when all the others are just springed...
BIndeed, its a bit like comparing bicycle with suped up 4x4 off roaders.
RCould the bigger motors fit into the rhino box well enough anyways
BDoubt it
R11lbs at the base. So it'll probably be only like 6 at the grip
BDepends on extension, but I haven't measured.