a video of what im talking about
a video of what im talking about
Fnote the stick input, all im doing is pulling back then letting go to make it very clear, but this also happens if you pull back and attempt to keep it there
WDebug tab would be more useful, since it shows loaded effects
WHave you tried disabling the G effect?
Fhave tried reducing its effectiveness but not disabling it
Fdo you mean vpconfig debug or telemffb monitor screen?
Fcause this is all that the debug screen shows, the removeeffect appears every time the stick hits the front limiter
Fhere is telemffbs data, and disabling the g effect did seem to remove the oscillations
NThe G-Force effect is far from perfect, but there isn't really a perfect way to implement it since DCS is already in control of the spring force and axis offset.
Some aircraft are quite pitchy with very little control input, which results in extremely fast moving "g force" telemetry, which results in the oscillations you are feeling. The P51 is the same way.
Best suggestion is to play with the min/max and curve settings to try to tame it down. Min/Max are pretty self explanatory
, the curve setting affects how the force is applied between min/max.
This section in the manual talks about the old config file settings, but the concept is the same: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.aoiri2v9r6pg
Some aircraft are quite pitchy with very little control input, which results in extremely fast moving "g force" telemetry, which results in the oscillations you are feeling. The P51 is the same way.
Best suggestion is to play with the min/max and curve settings to try to tame it down. Min/Max are pretty self explanatory
, the curve setting affects how the force is applied between min/max.
This section in the manual talks about the old config file settings, but the concept is the same: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YL5DLkiTxlaNx_zKHEYSs25PjmGtQ6_WZDk58_SGt8Y/edit#heading=h.aoiri2v9r6pg
CHey, been loving my Rhino so far. Had a question regarding the spring function.
I am a CH-47 mechanic, and I'm doing flight control binding checks, I noticed that the "spring" worked differently than the Rhino in my current setup. Pushing the trimmer for center works correctly, however in the 47 and I assume other helicopters, the amount of force required to move the stick from center is the same near the limits as it is at the center. Is there somewhere in the settings I can make this spring more linear? Requiring the same force at the end as near the center point?
I am a CH-47 mechanic, and I'm doing flight control binding checks, I noticed that the "spring" worked differently than the Rhino in my current setup. Pushing the trimmer for center works correctly, however in the 47 and I assume other helicopters, the amount of force required to move the stick from center is the same near the limits as it is at the center. Is there somewhere in the settings I can make this spring more linear? Requiring the same force at the end as near the center point?
FYou could try to change the gain curve to flat in the spring section, it's a button right next to where you change the spring force
Cwill give that a go this evening
Ccurrently toying with it
WThe spring force linearity is the same - center vs any other trimmed position, maybe some other variables are at play here.
Cto me it seems that it requires a good bit more force at the ends than near the center
Cwell I gave it a reset, and it seems to be acting as intended. Sorry about the confusion.
GStop Switch Not Woking...
Worked fine when I first used it but noticed over the last 2 days it's now stopped working and the stick is powered if it is in or out.
Is this something I've disable in software?
Worked fine when I first used it but noticed over the last 2 days it's now stopped working and the stick is powered if it is in or out.
Is this something I've disable in software?
DJust take the back panel off and retighten the nut on the bottom of the Emergency stop.
GNut was fully tight, wiggled the plastic base and it started working, buzzed it with a multimeter while wiggling and it didn't change so working now. See how long it stays that way
FCould also try contact spray if it stops working again
JI've had this problem on and off for a while. I can't really figure out what is causing it. But, sometimes on start up of the rhino the stick wont spring force center. There are no simulated spring forces and Hardware trim wont work. If I enable "sticky" spring forces, the hardware trim works and all the spring forces work normally. sometimes I can get the base to "activate" the spring forces by unplugging, plugging, changing usb ports, removing power, or restarting the pc. but, Like now. none of those are working.
WCan you screenshot the app window with the effects/settings/debug tab open while this is occuring?
GHeeeeelp, I have a really weird issue...
If I have the stick plugged in and choose to fly the Gazelle, the collective jumps to 60%. If I move MY collective you can see it trying to respond but immediatly jumps back to 60%
If I unplug the stick the collective works fine.
It only does this on the Gazelle unless I unplug the stick then plug it back in, in which case all heli's now go to 60% collective.
All other mappings have been removed and the only thing bound to collective in axis is my virpil collective, there is also nothing mapped to collective in buttons.
If I have the stick plugged in and choose to fly the Gazelle, the collective jumps to 60%. If I move MY collective you can see it trying to respond but immediatly jumps back to 60%
If I unplug the stick the collective works fine.
It only does this on the Gazelle unless I unplug the stick then plug it back in, in which case all heli's now go to 60% collective.
All other mappings have been removed and the only thing bound to collective in axis is my virpil collective, there is also nothing mapped to collective in buttons.
R@Glaive(Rikk) With the VPC joystick tester open, do you see any interference with the collective axis when you move either of the Rhino axis after raising the collective?
If not, the only thing I think it can be is a dual binding in the DCS controls. I know you’ve checked but I’d look at the DCS controls tab again and, if you still don’t see the axis bound on the Rhino, clear the bindings on both controllers. Hit OK to exit the controls tab then go back in and rebind as necessary.
If not, the only thing I think it can be is a dual binding in the DCS controls. I know you’ve checked but I’d look at the DCS controls tab again and, if you still don’t see the axis bound on the Rhino, clear the bindings on both controllers. Hit OK to exit the controls tab then go back in and rebind as necessary.
GProblem solved after lots of digging, seems to be the only module where both the pilot and copilot controls are ALWAYS active. Removed all the controls from the copilot and now it flies fine.
JI did a bit of digging. It looks like windows turned on USB suspend mode after an update. I disabled this on all the usb ports in the device manager and In the power plan settings. I'll let you know if this still happens.
BMy X-Axis started to feel weird today, when i move it left and right i feel a rumble/knocking that feels like the engine rumble effect. Telem software is off. The Y Axis is totally smooth when moving it over the center. Slowly moving the stick over the center feels smooth. Changing the center with forcetrim also changes the rumble location.
These are my settings, playing around with them changes the intensity but doen't fully get rid of it, i can still feel it with 90% Gain and 40% Spring, everything else at 0.
These are my settings, playing around with them changes the intensity but doen't fully get rid of it, i can still feel it with 90% Gain and 40% Spring, everything else at 0.
FWhen I pull my stick to the right, at the center of the draw, base makes a sound of plastic getting force and grip feels like it's ticking. And after the center of the draw, it moves smoothly.
In the other direction, it moves smoothly to the end.
Should I open the base and tighten something?
In the other direction, it moves smoothly to the end.
Should I open the base and tighten something?
AEasiest to check are the five bolts on each large pulley. I tigtened mine a 1/8 turn, and clunks went away. There were also one or two bases with clicks in the stick connector - alu tube -interface. Lemme find the original post real quick.
AAAnd maybe the small pulley grub screws, on the motor axles. They were really tight on mine, didn't dare to tighten them more.
FThank you for your advice! I'll try that!
AYou're welcome! Hope it works 
TI periodically unscrew and lift the leather boot and tighten the screws holding the stick in the gimbal, as well as the bolts that hold the motor in place.
FGood tips! Thank you!
Hhi, how do I use the force trim in dcs with the huey and the rhino? thanks
BSet trim options to instant, then bind a trim button ingame.
Hinstant in the configurator?
HI have to activate hardware force trim in the configurator?
Hok I understand. Just that I had to use balance spring to adjust my long shaft weight 
Hwhat do you mean by trim options to instant?
BDcs options.
Special, select the module icon.
Special, select the module icon.
Hin trimmer mode I have the options of "default", "trim in central position" and joystick without ffb.
Hseems default and central position does the same thing
BFor the Huey, select default. Make sure FFB is on under the Misc tab, and bind a joystick button to the "Trimmer"
Hthanks. I also see a recenter button in the options, but the real huey does not have that no?
BNo, that's an option for use with non-FFB sticks as a work around. The real aircraft you have to re-center manually.
Halso the center in an helicopter does not mean anything, I mean it depends what you're doing
BTrue. Neutral is a better term.
Hbut even neutral. Neutral when you're on the ground is not neutral when you're hovering, as you always have to move controls around
BNeutral means the rotor system is not applying a force to move the helicopter. It applies in any mode. Neutral will be different depending on hovering, forward flight, on the ground, etc. That's why the re-center button doesn't exist on the real helicopter.