Universal Blue•2y ago

pros: \- Not needing an SSD \- Not needing to install updates? Maybe? cons: \- Literally everything

pros:
- Not needing an SSD
- Not needing to install updates? Maybe?
cons:
- Literally everything else

Niklas ⚡•3/1/24, 8:51 AM

I don’t like it

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:52 AM

well actually mainframes weren't that bad...

VValerie pros: \- Not needing an SSD \- Not needing to install updates? Maybe? cons: \- L...

Niklas ⚡•3/1/24, 8:52 AM

You still need an ssd to hold some local data

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:52 AM

anyone ever use one back in the day? clouds are like mainframes on steroids, anyway point is, its not your computer at that point if you're on the cloud

VValerie pros: \- Not needing an SSD \- Not needing to install updates? Maybe? cons: \- L...

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:52 AM

Actually:

Pro's: More Vendor control.
Con's: Less piracy and cheating...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:53 AM

its already bad enough we have corps that are trying to get us to buy the same stuff over and over T_T

©©TriMoon™Actually: - Pro's: More Vendor control. - Con's: Less piracy and cheating...

ValerieOP•3/1/24, 8:53 AM

Those both sound like cons to consumer's rights

VValerie Those both sound like cons to consumer's rights

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:53 AM

They are, but it's the non-consumers that control stuff like that...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:53 AM

@©TriMoon™ to your point though, to look at it from your perspective, it could be beneficial to even the playing field for pvp games

©©TriMoon™They are, but it's the non-consumers that control stuff like that...

ValerieOP•3/1/24, 8:54 AM

I get that... But why be excited for a future like that?

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:54 AM

but that's where i draw the line, no point in playing on the cloud for single player games

VValerie I get that... But why be excited for a future like that?

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:54 AM

Not excited, im just sharing what i think will happen...

©©TriMoon™Not excited, im just sharing what i think will happen...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:54 AM

you're not wrong, they're definitely trying to get us to go in that direction

©©TriMoon™One day when, world-wide, the internet speeds at home are fast enough we will al...

ValerieOP•3/1/24, 8:54 AM

A future like this doesn't sound like it has much room for Linux on home PCs either

VValerie A future like this doesn't sound like it has much room for Linux on home PCs eit...

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:55 AM

That is not related.... Becaus you should be able to choose the OS you want to boot into, by communicating with your ISP and contract

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:56 AM

its all good though, you will be able to pick up razer rgb 360fps gaming PCs at the antique store in about 10 years time for a good deal

©©TriMoon™That is not related.... Becaus you should be able to choose the OS you want to b...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:57 AM

LOL dystopian...

©©TriMoon™That is not related.... Becaus you should be able to choose the OS you want to b...

ValerieOP•3/1/24, 8:57 AM

Truly dystopian

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:57 AM

Don't understand that word...

ValerieOP•3/1/24, 8:57 AM

"I envision a future where you need a billion dollar company's permission to use an operating system"

©©TriMoon™Don't understand that word...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 8:57 AM

utopia = paradise, dystopia = what you just described

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:58 AM

Ohhh but that already is the case with Micro$@$

DDevilFish303 utopia = paradise, dystopia = what you just described

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 8:58 AM

ahh ok

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:00 AM

its all good though, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but imo, despite trends, there will always be a niche for hardware hackers i think, even after the singularity drops

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:00 AM

ripper docs to be a thing irl

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:01 AM

bazzite will be running on my brain-computer interface

DDevilFish303 its all good though, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but imo, despit...

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 9:01 AM

Well ofcourse, ppl with enough know-how, will always find ways to boot their own OS using a local server...

DDevilFish303 bazzite will be running on my brain-computer interface 😛

Jan•3/1/24, 9:02 AM

my brain waiting to boot because the nvidia drivers have to recompile

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 9:02 AM

As much as i also don't like the future i just described, im positive that is where the industry is heading towards...

DDevilFish303 its all good though, everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but imo, despit...

Jan•3/1/24, 9:03 AM

there is an xkcd about this

Jan•3/1/24, 9:03 AM

https://xkcd.com/1782/

xkcd: Team Chat

2078: He announces that he's finally making the jump from screen+irssi to tmux+weechat.

©TriMoon™•3/1/24, 9:05 AM

Anyhow it's up to us as consumers, to see where their road is heading and making sure that road stays open for consumer choices...

Jan•3/1/24, 9:11 AM

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:11 AM

imagine nintendo coming after you like arasaka at the beginning of cyberpunk 2077 corpo start
"your access to our retro collection, including but not limited to NES/SNES/N64/GC, has been terminated" sparks fly out of my head

Jan•3/1/24, 9:11 AM

the market decides no matter what we consumers do

JJan the market decides no matter what we consumers do

That's what i said also: 🎮bazzite
We as consumers can only demand stuff by petitions and voting behavior to hopefully force legislations in our favor..
I say "hopefully" because we all know some stuff gets shoved up our throads anyhow...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:31 AM

it's coming together: https://github.com/cchulo/conductor almost done with the add_shortcut_command, by the end it will have better functionality than steamtinkerlaunch's addnonsteamgame functionality

GitHub

GitHub - cchulo/conductor

Contribute to cchulo/conductor development by creating an account on GitHub.

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:32 AM

more importantly in python, i tried editing sonic2kks code, and i just can't read the crazy bash he wrote for it...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:32 AM

and its like, everything is in a single file, i need copilot to like read it for me

lol

It's what the respective dev feels most comfortable with to code in, the actual language can be anything...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:34 AM

i wouldn't ship a complete product in pure bash

You wouldn't others would... it doesn't really matter...
It's personal preference, just like coffee vs tea...

But if final size is a criteria, then languages that directly compile into CPU code are the way...

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:37 AM

yes, a CPU does not care what language you wrote something in, but a language is for a human to interface with the machine, not the machine itself, its why compilers were invented

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:38 AM

if i cannot understand code after sitting there for a couple of hours, especially if its a single file, its bad cod

yup and also why higher-level languages exist...

antheas•3/1/24, 9:38 AM

There's very few applications you need to use a compiled language for

antheas•3/1/24, 9:38 AM

Using bash is fine for something like steam tinker tool if you want to blow your brains out

DevilFish303•3/1/24, 9:38 AM

yea these days an interpreter or a JIT is what gets the job done

antheas•3/1/24, 9:38 AM

But it's perfectly usable for that application

pros: \- Not needing an SSD \- Not needing to install updates? Maybe? cons: \- Literally everything

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