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Joseph Ogbonna•3/7/24, 3:20 PM

Ok let me do that

Camila_99$$•3/7/24, 3:53 PM

Hii guys,
What is the best burner/programmer for the AVR microcontroller that is universal and can program most of the AVR chips?

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CCamila_99$$Hii guys, What is the best burner/programmer for the AVR microcontroller that is...

Umesh Lokhande•3/7/24, 5:10 PM

I use AVR ISP MKII Programmer but if you want to save a few $ then the AVR ISP Programmer with USBasp firmware would also do the job.

Camila_99$$•3/7/24, 5:39 PM

Aah yes actually that’s what I’m looking for

Camila_99$$•3/7/24, 5:41 PM

@Umesh Lokhande Thanks for the quick response

CCamila_99$$Aah yes actually that’s what I’m looking for

Umesh Lokhande•3/7/24, 5:46 PM

Welcome! I've used both programmers with Windows and Ubuntu Linux with AVRDude both work like a charm

Camila_99$$•3/7/24, 10:02 PM

Budweiser•3/7/24, 10:48 PM

Considering the saying "jack of all trades, master of none".
What have you achieved mastery in?
If none yet, what would you want to become a Master of.

BBudweiser Considering the saying "jack of all trades, master of none". What have you achie...

Flo•3/7/24, 11:21 PM

I like that question. I want to master the honesty towards myself. If we are talking technology it is ARM, U-Boot and Linux.

BBudweiser Considering the saying "jack of all trades, master of none". What have you achie...

techielew•3/8/24, 2:08 AM

Nice question. I'd really like to master HDL

BBudweiser Considering the saying "jack of all trades, master of none". What have you achie...

techielew•3/8/24, 2:09 AM

How about you?

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:09 AM

I'd like to master rf circuit design, I have worked on the digital signal processing/software side of RF, but not done the hardware side

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:10 AM

@techielew you ever heard of ModelSim?

BBudweiser I'd like to master rf circuit design, I have worked on the digital signal proces...

techielew•3/8/24, 2:11 AM

Oh that's a good one. That's like a dark art only known to the Scandinavians lol

BBudweiser @techielew you ever heard of ModelSim?

techielew•3/8/24, 2:11 AM

I thought it sounded familiar and then looked it up and yes I have. Have you/do you use it?

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:11 AM

when I worked in FPGA development I used it

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:12 AM

I used VHDL, before doing anything further down the pipeline, I'd make it first work in ModelSim

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:12 AM

if you want to e.g. learn VHDL, I extremely recommend using that, you can learn VHDL on that level much like you learn a software language

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:12 AM

try out implementing basic digital circuits, simulate them, validate them..

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:13 AM

you can also feed in data from files, and save output to files, so can already simulate signal processing stuff there

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

this is not going to get you all the way to making (functional/good) FPGA designs, but if you come from zero and have nobody else to guide you, then having all steps at once is a bit much, maybe do this, afaik ModelSim is free (at least it was some years ago)

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

so you can just download it, write your code, and simulate it

techielew•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

I was just looking for a free version

techielew•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

looks like it was when altera was still it's own version of altera

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

so just get an old version

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

for this purpose that won't matter

techielew•3/8/24, 2:14 AM

yeah i'm on the hunt

techielew•3/8/24, 2:15 AM

thanks for that tip. i'm in the process of slurping navadeep's brain but i'm sure he'll get tired of that soon haha.

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:15 AM

it's just a way for you to get started very fast, and just get going with trying things out, also simulating VHDL by other people, on opencores or github

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:15 AM

and alternating it

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:15 AM

as a next step

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:16 AM

I think that is a really neat way to pivot into digital design

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:16 AM

also there should be a bunch of code examples in there already

techielew•3/8/24, 2:16 AM

https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/software-kit/750368/modelsim-intel-fpgas-standard-edition-software-version-18-1.html

Intel

ModelSim-Intel® FPGAs Standard Edition Software Version 18.1

ModelSim-Intel® FPGAs Standard Edition Software Version 18.1 B625

techielew•3/8/24, 2:16 AM

techielew•3/8/24, 2:17 AM

Thank you! This looks fun

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:17 AM

do that for some time, when you are confident with doing digital designs up to that level

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:17 AM

get some low cost FPGA board (under 50€)

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:18 AM

do some very simple designs that are small relative to the FPGA, those will probably run even without any tweaking, or only minimal tweaking

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:18 AM

when you aren't on the limits of your hardware.. things are fairly benign

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:19 AM

lots more to say of course.. but that's a good starting point I think

techielew•3/8/24, 2:21 AM

yeah that's great. tbh we are getting a couple fpga-based eval platforms sent to us under embargo. i was going to give one to navadeep and give the other away after an unboxing, but maybe navadeep will have to give his away now

techielew•3/8/24, 2:21 AM

thanks i really appreciate it

techielew•3/8/24, 2:21 AM

so, what type of rf?

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:22 AM

first I'd like to get just into actually high speed digital circuits, where RF effects matter for routing and such (impedance matching and all that), just haven't gone there yet (not done in practice for PCB development)

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:23 AM

then non microwave but actual radio related stuff, stuff on the board, and maybe doing even board antenna's, not sure I'd go up to microwave.. though curious

BBudweiser first I'd like to get just into actually high speed digital circuits, where RF e...

techielew•3/8/24, 2:38 AM

Is there something specific you'd like to learn or some way you'd like to go about learning the HS digital stuff on PCB? Petr and I are developing demo video content and welcome ideas

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:43 AM

I think what I want goes way beyond the basics, but I think an example that would be instructive, would be e.g. "just" something standard, not a custom RF thing, but just for an existing standard, that would also probably be valueable to the largest number of people,
say..
Decide on a standard protocol in RF, like Bluetooth, IEEE802.11, or whatever.
And then in e.g. KiCad, design the RF critical path, from the PHY-Chip to a PCB antenna, antenna doesn't even have to be fully "self"-designed, but maybe coming from the Antenna Designer in Matlab.

Budweiser•3/8/24, 2:43 AM

is that something semi-reasonable?

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