Cloudflare Developers•2y ago

Are there any other caching / optimization tools that I can use with D1 or KV that could potentially

Are there any other caching / optimization tools that I can use with D1 or KV that could potentially save money?

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:02 PM

Besides doing rate limiting and designing the app in an efficient way

Iiamnotapipe do you have more info on betterkv? my first time hearing of it

Isaac McFadyen•3/26/24, 5:03 PM

https://flareutils.pages.dev/betterkv/

Iiamnotapipe do you have more info on betterkv? my first time hearing of it

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:03 PM

Mine as well, it seems super cool though

Xx03 Are there any other caching / optimization tools that I can use with D1 or KV th...

Isaac McFadyen•3/26/24, 5:04 PM

I'd recommend you wait until you actually see the amount of traffic you're getting to optimize further. At a certain point the amount of effort it takes to optimize things is a lot of work, work that might not even be needed if you see that the caching from BetterKV or otherwise is working well enough.

Iiamnotapipe ty. its meant to use caching to reduce reads if i understand correctly?

Isaac McFadyen•3/26/24, 5:05 PM

Yup, exactly.

IIsaac McFadyen I'd recommend you wait until you actually see the amount of traffic you're getti...

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:05 PM

Makes sense. Do cloudflare's analytic tools let me see traffic from specific KV namespaces? I have a "codes" table for email codes and "session" table for sessions. Also, can I analyze other things like D1 traffic and worker CPU times?

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:06 PM

I'd check but the dashboard wont work right now

Isaac McFadyen•3/26/24, 5:06 PM

I'll let someone else answer that as I haven't used the KV analytics much myself

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:06 PM

Ah alright

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:06 PM

Appreciate all of your help by the way

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:13 PM

I was looking at pricing, and is the pricing on the default page here: https://www.cloudflare.com/plans/ for pages? The prices are the same but there's two different sections which is confusing.

Our Plans | Pricing | Cloudflare

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Xx03 I was looking at pricing, and is the pricing on the default page here: https://w...

Walshy•3/26/24, 5:15 PM

Pages uses zone plan

Iiamnotapipe is pages relevant to anyone who doesnt use jamstack? i cant seem to figure out w...

Walshy•3/26/24, 5:16 PM

I mean if you host a site full stop then yes it's nice to use Pages, mainly for the free static asset requests

Pages does use Workers though as well so you get all the power of Workers. Just with the DX of Pages when it comes to hosting

As convergence happens though we'll see Workers morph more like Pages and pick up that DX until they're one product

WWalshy Pages uses zone plan

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:16 PM

So these two are not related?

Walshy•3/26/24, 5:17 PM

They're related in the sense that they're the same, not two diff plans

WWalshy They're related in the sense that they're the same, not two diff plans

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:17 PM

Oh okay, so if I buy the business plan I'll get features from both those screenshots

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:17 PM

I got confused because the feature pages dont overlap

Walshy•3/26/24, 5:17 PM

yes

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:17 PM

Like the first feature page does not mention concurrent builds, etc

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:18 PM

Alright thanks for clarifying

Walshy•3/26/24, 5:18 PM

yes first focuses on zone features, second on Pages

x03OP•3/26/24, 5:18 PM

Makes sense

Xx03 Makes sense. Do cloudflare's analytic tools let me see traffic from specific KV ...

Chaika•3/26/24, 5:18 PM

As far as I know you can't get KV analytics per namespace except size, no request stats.
D1 has really nice GraphQL Analytics and you can get all sorts of analytics per DB and even per query analytics
Worker CPU Time is through GraphQL as well