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What’s new with Cloudflare Media: updates for Calls, Stream, and Im...

With Cloudflare Calls in open beta, you can build real-time, serverless video and audio applications. Cloudflare Stream lets your viewers instantly clip from ongoing streams. Finally, Cloudflare Images now supports automatic face cropping and has an upload widget that lets you easily integrate into your application.

Softbear•4/4/24, 2:03 PM

Hello, I have a video that refuses to play on Iphones (works on android and on my mac). What can I do to debug this ?

SSoftbear Hello, I have a video that refuses to play on Iphones (works on android and on m...

Softbear•4/4/24, 2:06 PM

robOP•4/4/24, 2:22 PM

both HLS and dash links throwin errors?

Softbear•4/4/24, 2:32 PM

the dash one prompts me to download the file, it downloads a 8kb file

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BironHalo•4/4/24, 3:19 PM

pretty cool feature. I'm definately adding this to my web app

BironHalo•4/4/24, 3:33 PM

I just can't find anything on giving users the ability to download different video resolutions, though it wouldn't cost me less in minutes to run the server, it would be great to package it in different pay gates.

Tthelegend27 Anyone else having issues with WebRTC at around 5pm UTC? It'll be fine for my 4...

Ale•4/5/24, 6:29 PM

Hello, is it possible to use this stream status websocket in my app

AAle Hello, is it possible to use this stream status websocket in my app

thelegend27•4/5/24, 8:05 PM

Yes. I use it in mine. It's a simple API call

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khalil•4/5/24, 8:20 PM

Would it be possible to make the max preview duration higher, like 30 minutes or so? The live clipping can serve as live playback/rewind, which has been requested by many, but this 5 min restriction prevents this use case (please correct me if I am misunderstanding the duration limit).
Youtube is able to rewind an ongoing live stream to any point in the live stream, it would be super useful to have this as a part of Stream.

Tthelegend27 Yes. I use it in mine. It's a simple API call

Ale•4/6/24, 4:34 AM

I meant that if it is somewhere in the documentation, I was able to obtain the endpoint but using the browser's dev tools

AAle I meant that if it is somewhere in the documentation, I was able to obtain the e...

thelegend27•4/6/24, 9:57 AM

Oh! That's be cool. Especially because if you call the endpoint too often you start getting 429s

yinxingmaiming6409•4/7/24, 8:41 AM

Will traffic still be charged without using relays?

Thomas•4/8/24, 12:25 PM

The live clipping feature feels like a joke. You can just cut out one single specific part of the video?! Thanks for nothing. Instead they should make the WebRTC stable for professional use, especially when more than 50 viewers are watching.

Lla.x.rc what issues did you run into with webrtc?

Thomas•4/8/24, 6:16 PM

There are some issues, based on your WHEP implementation example and also recommended OBS settings:

short stutter/framedrops of about a half of a second till 2 seconds while audio is running fine, occurs randomly every 5 till 30
seconds, this can differ from day to day on the same device
It constantly stopping (hang up) after a while and playback don’t continue automatically, it needs full reload of the player
when starting playback sometimes it buffers endlessly and doesn’t playback the stream
sometimes the audio channel won’t play while the video is running and starts after a while (~ 3 minutes), reloading the page don’t fix it, also this occurs randomly between different devices
our audience needs to reload the video page often to get a stable playback or to continue watching, also it looks like the more viewers are watching (50+) the more issues we have (also on a same device)

I’m really looking forward to get any improvement

TThomas The live clipping feature feels like a joke. You can just cut out one single spe...

khalil•4/8/24, 6:29 PM

My two cents: I think changes like live clipping are more essential, and I appreciate the work being done in these directions; I understand webrtc stuff is the future so to speak with its lower latency etc, but I can't help but to feel that this "shinier" tech is drawing resources away from core "stream" features (or perhaps there is just less presence here in the discord, and its not a matter of resources). There are relatively smaller changes, such as fleshing out live clipping/live rewind, or allowing instant mp4 downloads without the processing (which occasionally just errors out), videos stuck in a live-inprogress state for 10 months, etc, that I think would help a larger proportion of actual Stream users. I don't think webrtc users/requesters constitute a significant proportion of Stream users in terms of actual production usage, but perhaps I am mistaken about this.

Lla.x.rc I don't know if OBS can switch to a different codec

tt2468•4/9/24, 2:02 AM

The OBS WHIP output currently only supports AVC and AV1. AV1 is available as of the 30.1.0 release.

tt2468•4/9/24, 2:12 AM

Yeah, I honestly haven't been keeping track of which browsers are supporting it. We should probably add HEVC at some point soon

Isaac McFadyen•4/9/24, 3:38 AM

If anything HEVC support looks even patchier than AV1, or at least there are a lot more *caveat*caveats on HEVC than AV1.

ZZiga Zajc I mean not die. People just won't use it for encoding anymore. So it would be le...

Thomas•4/9/24, 4:45 AM

Didn’t know of the licensing issues, so thanks for this information. Although h265 would be the better codec in terms of compression and quality.

Lla.x.rc If you are running into issues with H264, try a scalable codec, like VP8 or VP9

Thomas•4/9/24, 7:31 AM

VP9 isn’t fully supported by iOS, VP8 can’t be used for WHIP (just for local recording). I’ve tested this on OBS and Streamlabs. AV1 is also not supported and crash the software when start streaming. The only option is H264 Software and NVIDIA H264. Since we have round about 30 streamer making live streaming we need some robust solution any of them can use out of the box. Actually the missing audio track when starting the video is very frustrating, this issue wasn’t there before a week. The WHEP/WHIP just doesn’t feel stable actually.

Lla.x.rc Do you see choppiness or playback issues with this?

Thomas•4/9/24, 7:38 AM

Audio and Video looks good, no issues. The missing audio occurs randomly, not every start of the stream. Also we got more issues when more viewers are watching. When I tested myself everything is fine.

Thomas•4/9/24, 7:40 AM

Our audience is coming from Germany only, no VPN used.

Thomas•4/9/24, 7:41 AM

Using the latest/current OBS release

IIsaac McFadyen If anything HEVC support looks even patchier than AV1, or at least there are a l...

tt2468•4/9/24, 7:55 AM

HEVC hardware decode is at this point available on most platforms, so it's really a pretty good stop-gap solution until AV1 decoders catch up, especially on mobile devices

Lla.x.rc Do you see choppiness or playback issues with this?

Thomas•4/9/24, 1:54 PM

I can reproduce 3 issues from my list when playing your test stream:

short framedrops of about 1 second every 30 seconds till 2 Minutes (roundabout)
the stream hangs up after a while of playing, especially when tab was inactive or run in background before refocus again
stream was starting with no audio

I‘m using different top end devices: Windows PC Chrome, Android S23 Ultra, iPhone 15 Pro Max, iPad Pro

Doc•4/10/24, 1:55 AM

Hello - I'm seeing random buffering in our CloudFlare livestreams. Streaming from OBS to Restream to YouTube and CloudFlare. YouTube stream has no buffering. Recording has no issues. But livestream in Cloudflare has buffering with 3 dots on the center of the frame at random intervals. Any suggestions for how to improve this?

Doc•4/10/24, 2:34 AM

I'm seeing this error in the Console Log: [warn][hlsjs: non-fatal error occurred]
{evt: 'hlsError', data: {…}}
data
:
{type: 'mediaError', details: 'bufferStalledError', fatal: false, buffer: 0.08654699999999593}
evt
:
"hlsError"

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