> We are working on (couldn't quite make it for this week) a change where when you call another Work

We are working on (couldn't quite make it for this week) a change where when you call another Worker via a service binding, this won't be billed as a request

neoney•4/9/24, 9:17 PM

OOOH NICE

BBulbasaur > We are working on (couldn't quite make it for this week) a change where when y...

Leon338•4/9/24, 9:17 PM

Thats nice, ty

BulbasaurOP•4/9/24, 9:18 PM

the reason they can do this as far as I can tell is because they're colocating it

Leon338•4/9/24, 9:18 PM

That will open up alot of possiblities actually

BulbasaurOP•4/9/24, 9:21 PM

RPC to another Worker (over a Service Binding) usually does not even cross a network. In fact, the other Worker usually runs in the very same thread as the caller, reducing latency to zero. Performance-wise, it’s almost as fast as an actual function call.

BulbasaurOP•4/9/24, 9:21 PM

Yeah, so I think addresses the point about "they can't reduce it all the way" - with this architecture, it becomes super cheap

neoney•4/9/24, 10:45 PM

Is workers AI free for beta models?

neoney•4/9/24, 10:45 PM

Or am I misunderstanding.

Nneoney Is workers AI free for beta models?

Isaac McFadyen•4/9/24, 10:55 PM

That's correct, yes.

IIsaac McFadyen That's correct, yes.

neoney•4/10/24, 12:48 AM

Sounds heavily profitable. I'm in.

johtso•4/10/24, 10:08 AM

Why does the queues documentation mention free tier of it's only available on the paid tier? And is there no free allowance on a paid plan? https://developers.cloudflare.com/queues/platform/pricing/

Cloudflare Docs

Cloudflare Queues - Pricing · Cloudflare Queues

Cloudflare Queues requires the Workers Paid plan to use, but does not increase your monthly subscription cost.

Jjohtso Why does the queues documentation mention free tier of it's only available on th...

Sam•4/10/24, 10:36 AM

There is a free tier inside the paid tier. So you need to subscribe to the $5 plan to get the free tier.

johtso•4/10/24, 10:36 AM

Ah that makes sense!

SSam There is a free tier inside the paid tier. So you need to subscribe to the $5 pl...

johtso•4/10/24, 10:38 AM

I think what confused me was the splitting it into two columns. Really it's 1 tier but with 1mil inclusive operations

Jjohtso I think what confused me was the splitting it into two columns. Really it's 1 ti...

Sam•4/10/24, 10:39 AM

Yup! Should be renamed to "Included with subscription" or something like that

pavs•4/10/24, 1:57 PM

Hello! QQ, anybody here kjnows how to setup a scheduler worker trigger for it to run every 5 seconds? Thanks

Chaika•4/10/24, 1:58 PM

Workers CRON/Scheduled Handler can only go down to per minute in granularity. If you need anything more specific, you'd need to use Durable Object Alarms or something else

pavs•4/10/24, 2:07 PM

got it, i will look into that! Thanks

BBrian Hanson Are there any tips/tricks/articles about how people are managing splitting up wo...

johtso•4/10/24, 4:24 PM

feel like that's all going to be changing with the new RPC stuff..

johtso•4/10/24, 4:24 PM

looking forward to some people making some videos / content about it

BBrian Hanson Are there any tips/tricks/articles about how people are managing splitting up wo...

Leon338•4/10/24, 4:47 PM

If you really want to dive deeper into that topic, I'd recommend some type of Microservices like one Worker (Service) for each set of Features

Leon338•4/10/24, 4:49 PM

The new RPC Stuff will open up a lot of new Possibilities. You could have for example some kind of Worker before every Microservice that'll just call the Microservice via RPC and handle all the global Logic instead of adding a Set of global logic to every Micro Service

alotabits•4/10/24, 7:15 PM

I’ve noticed since the rollout of versions that I have no history for some metrics in the dashboard for workers that have had a deployment since the release of versions. Just a hockey stick for the latest version and nothing before that. Known issue?

alotabits•4/10/24, 7:18 PM

And I have “All deployed versions” selected. Maybe it’s just isolated to the Requests section, but I thought I saw it in several metrics earlier today.

Deep•4/11/24, 12:15 AM

Hi, so CF doesn't store worker logs? Looking at the docs I can only do real-time (tail them or dashboard tail) or create another worker? That then stores them whereever we have a DB to write to? Is this right? CF doesn't store logs / I can't view historical logs?

DDeep Hi, so CF doesn't store worker logs? Looking at the docs I can only do real-tim...

johtso•4/11/24, 12:17 AM

correct, you'll need to send them to a 3rd party service.. I've been experimenting with baselime recently

Deep•4/11/24, 12:17 AM

maybe it's a paid upgrade?

Deep•4/11/24, 12:17 AM

@johtso thanks! ok wow. like wow. how can this be?

Deep•4/11/24, 12:17 AM

"oh it be" - Seinfeld...

Deep•4/11/24, 12:18 AM

well..... shyt.

johtso•4/11/24, 12:18 AM

I think it's the nature of cloudflare's offering, it's very stripped down

Deep•4/11/24, 12:18 AM

gotcha

Deep•4/11/24, 12:18 AM

"very"

Deep•4/11/24, 12:19 AM

alright, i guess i'll write my own logger send to a DB, etc... jeez

Deep•4/11/24, 12:19 AM

thanks!!

johtso•4/11/24, 12:20 AM

they did recently acquire baselime, so hopefully some more tightly integrated instrumentation soon

johtso•4/11/24, 12:21 AM

but yeah.. honeycomb and baselime both have a generous free tier, you send data to them using an opentelemetry library

Deep•4/11/24, 12:21 AM

that's too bad ha... i just built a much more advanced visualization platform.

Deep•4/11/24, 12:21 AM

but clearly they need a logging featureset

Deep•4/11/24, 12:22 AM

yep, OT is excellent

Deep•4/11/24, 12:24 AM

wait till they see my observability app

ironically, now i'm plugging my own logging into it and i just assumed i can go fetch some logs like CloudWatch

Deep•4/11/24, 12:24 AM

thanks a ton @johtso

bun•4/11/24, 1:27 AM

lmao whats this

Deep•4/11/24, 1:30 AM

@bun yep i just saw that

johtso•4/11/24, 1:38 AM

Seems odd that you can't give a Cron trigger a name, and instead you have to match on the actual Cron expression.. basically hard coding it in 2 places

bun•4/11/24, 1:39 AM

why do you need to match cron triggers though?

> We are working on (couldn't quite make it for this week) a change where when you call another Work

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