arch containers (or rather arch in general) regularly requires you to update the keyring and if that

arch containers (or rather arch in general) regularly requires you to update the keyring and if that is out of date at the right time or a key expires, your update will fail and its why topgrade is configured to not treat distrobox container updates as vital, so if they fail, they are ignored

HHikariKnight arch containers (or rather arch in general) regularly requires you to update the...

dnkmmr•4/15/24, 4:33 PM

hey how does topgrade run updates for things that require a sudo password (not talking about ublue in particular) like dnf and other package managers

HikariKnightOP•4/15/24, 4:34 PM

it asks for sudo when needed

HHikariKnight it asks for sudo when needed

dnkmmr•4/15/24, 4:36 PM

but what about places where it has to be non interactive (like gamemode update option)

Ddnkmmr but what about places where it has to be non interactive (like gamemode update o...

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:36 PM

it's run as root

KKyle Gospo it's run as root

dnkmmr•4/15/24, 4:37 PM

never knew that. Is there a way to add custom programs like sbrew from my brew user project

Ddnkmmr never knew that. Is there a way to add custom programs like sbrew from my brew u...

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:38 PM

yeah, make as script to update it and add it to the config in /etc

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:38 PM

topgrade is very extensible

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:38 PM

we ship 3 of them

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:38 PM

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:38 PM

Hopefully a simple question; Been using Bazzite on my LGO for about a month. Overall pretty happy. Using SimpleTDP to allow custom TDP using the default steam sliders. What is the Min/Max range I should set in SimpleTDP so that the slider is consistent with what the hardware will use?

KKyle Gospo yeah, make as script to update it and add it to the config in /etc

dnkmmr•4/15/24, 4:39 PM

oh ok. yeah my brew user project is useful for multi-user systems

XXipher Hopefully a simple question; Been using Bazzite on my LGO for about a month. Ove...

antheas•4/15/24, 4:40 PM

4-30, if youre picky 4-25

antheas•4/15/24, 4:40 PM

0-4 no difference

antheas•4/15/24, 4:40 PM

but you can do up to 40W and it will go up to 35W

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:40 PM

Awesome, thank you. I had it set to 4/35 but that was a guess

antheas•4/15/24, 4:41 PM

it overheats though and has no perf benefit

antheas•4/15/24, 4:41 PM

20W is the sweet spot

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:41 PM

Exactly the info I was looking for; TY

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:41 PM

Ive actually found most games run pretty well between 9-16w with the exception of some AAAs

antheas•4/15/24, 4:42 PM

yeah 20W is the plugged in sweet spot for me

antheas•4/15/24, 4:42 PM

i usually use performance mode which is the red light

antheas•4/15/24, 4:42 PM

when browsing desktop or gaming plugged in

antheas•4/15/24, 4:42 PM

and drop down when I want battery

KKyle Gospo it's run as root

pintocat•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

what's it do if you disabled root at installation?

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

Makes sense. Im mostly using this as a nice handheld when Im working at my desk and pop back and forth so 2-3 hours of battery is kinda what Im shooting for. Otherwise I use my deck for 4-6 hours

Ppintocat what's it do if you disabled root at installation?

antheas•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

that just disables the root user for login

pintocat•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

ah ok

antheas•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

you can still do stuff as root

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/15/24, 4:43 PM

which is recommended btw

antheas•4/15/24, 4:44 PM

also, stuff like the update dialog uses polkits

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/15/24, 4:44 PM

root account should be disabled. i wish we could rip it out of the installer

antheas•4/15/24, 4:44 PM

which is a fancy way to allow a non-root user do something root like

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:44 PM

By default the root account should be disabled. Any adminstrative tasks will be done with your local user and sudo

antheas•4/15/24, 4:44 PM

sometimes having the root login helps, but yeah huge footgun on the installer

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:46 PM

Downside to atomic systems using the default fedora installer

XXipher Downside to atomic systems using the default fedora installer

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:47 PM

hopefully we get the new web installer soon

Kyle Gospo•4/15/24, 4:47 PM

they're wrapping up some bug fixes for it

XXipher Downside to atomic systems using the default fedora installer

tryhardsoccermomswag•4/15/24, 4:47 PM

if KDE plasma allowed you to make a user post-installation like GNOME does, it would solve creating the user in anaconda which comes with the option of a root account

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:48 PM

True; pretty sure the KDE guys assume a installed functioning system with a user account because thats how most distros do it. Probably a flawed assumption

Lucid Tortoise•4/15/24, 4:49 PM

I am overjoyed with Bazzite. Everything runs so well. Just an insane number of packages and you know what, it runs as fast as any minimalist install.

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:49 PM

Heck; bazzite has been such a pleasure to use that I dove down the atomic distro rabbit hole and now most of my systems are running some form of atomic system

DevilFish303•4/15/24, 4:50 PM

anyone else seeing this?

pintocat•4/15/24, 4:50 PM

I wanted to try Kalpa but it was still pretty new last time I did

DevilFish303•4/15/24, 4:50 PM

Lucid Tortoise•4/15/24, 4:51 PM

Also, I just love how everything is sanely and automatically organized. I messed with NixOS and GNU Guix, and while I think they are awesome, I just feel like Fedora Silverblue does what I want without hassle. Plus, suspend actually works.

DevilFish303•4/15/24, 4:52 PM

then it says powering off but it just hangs here

DevilFish303•4/15/24, 4:52 PM

Xipher•4/15/24, 4:52 PM

Looks like its not completing all the shutdown scripts in systemd; not sure what would be causing that tho

LLucid Tortoise Also, I just love how everything is sanely and automatically organized. I messed...

pintocat•4/15/24, 4:52 PM

custom images like ublue are great. like yeah it's true that I can do anything I want, but I don't know enough to know what I'd want, so a good curated starting point was what I wanted

DevilFish303•4/15/24, 4:53 PM

just before this i read that usb poll service was taking a long while to shut down

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